Test & EQ

**Ripdx** · 12-08-2004, 03:28 PM

Trying to keep cut down a little on my test intake. I want to run 400 Eq, but didnt want to run 500 test. What could i run with 400 Eq to see good results or is there no way to run lower test levels.

**rborwn77** · 12-08-2004, 04:10 PM

you allways want to run about 100mg more test than anything else (rule of thumb)
Why dont you want to run 500mg of test (do you not have enough)
you should run test 1 week longer than eq and everyone will say you need to take eq for min. of 12 weeks

run test 400mg and Eq at 300-325mg

**youknowme** · 12-08-2004, 04:14 PM

300-325mg is too low IMO. At least 400mg of EQ. You can run the same amount of test as EQ. Both at 400...I'd personally run the test higher.

**rborwn77** · 12-08-2004, 04:40 PM

lets start over is this you 1st cycle ?

99% of people will say run test at least 100mg higher

I ran 300mg eq my 1st cycle and it worked great ( might be to low if he has done a few cycles)

**rborwn77** · 12-08-2004, 04:41 PM

lets start over is this you 1st cycle ?

99% of people will say run test at least 100mg higher

I ran 300mg eq my 1st cycle and it worked great ( might be to low if he has done a few cycles)

**rborwn77** · 12-08-2004, 04:43 PM

sorry about the double post ,dam computer

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-08-2004, 04:51 PM

You know, of course, that Eq is in the family of testosterone derived compounds. Running test at a higher (or even equal dose) isn't as necessary when we are talking about test derived compounds. If we were talking about a 19-nor compound (a progestin, perhaps, like deca or tren ) or a DHT derived compound like winstrol , the story might be different.

**rborwn77** · 12-08-2004, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

You know, of course, that Eq is in the family of testosterone derived compounds. Running test at a higher (or even equal dose) isn't as necessary when we are talking about test derived compounds. If we were talking about a 19-nor compound (a progestin, perhaps, like deca or tren) or a DHT derived compound like winstrol, the story might be different.

thanks ,then why does 99% of people on this board recomed running it 100mg lower that test ?

**bignatt** · 12-08-2004, 05:12 PM

I dont think to many people know that it is derived from testosterone

**youknowme** · 12-08-2004, 06:01 PM

I agree...

**youknowme** · 12-08-2004, 06:02 PM

However if this is yur first cycle you should consider a Test Only cycle...bring us some stats...

**rborwn77** · 12-08-2004, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by youknowme

However if this is yur first cycle you should consider a Test Only cycle...bring us some stats...

even better suggestion

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-08-2004, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by rborwn77

thanks ,then why does 99% of people on this board recomed running it 100mg lower that test ?

They're wrong. They don't do real research. They repeat what someone else said without checking the references. Whatever ....

**bignatt** · 12-08-2004, 06:29 PM

So in reality since eq is derived from test couldnt you run an eq only?

**Stumbo** · 12-08-2004, 06:39 PM

ooooooooooo good question

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-08-2004, 06:44 PM

I don't have the research to back that question up or answer it properly right now. Sorry.

**Rogue50** · 12-08-2004, 06:54 PM

can anyone tell me if im overtraining, im takin test while playing hockey everyday and cardio and then going to the gym at night, is this too much even while being on test? thanks for any help

**bignatt** · 12-08-2004, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

I don't have the research to back that question up or answer it properly right now. Sorry.

Even without research from your point of view what do you think?

**bmwrob** · 12-08-2004, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rogue50

can anyone tell me if im overtraining, im takin test while playing hockey everyday and cardio and then going to the gym at night, is this too much even while being on test? thanks for any help

18 years old and cycling? BAD. To answer your question.... probably, but start your own thread and ask this question. You will get better responses by doing that then by jacking someone elses thread.

**ArkansasAlex** · 12-08-2004, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

I don't have the research to back that question up or answer it properly right now. Sorry.

So, do you think I can bump up my EQ to 600mg, I am starting my EQ/test/drol cycle next week, and I was going to do 400mg EQ and 600 test cyp

Thanks
Alex

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-08-2004, 07:20 PM

Natt: I dunno...I suspect that you can, with doses of 400-500mgs or so. I have friends who have run that type of Eq only cycle and are ok. One of my friends ONLY does Eq. He's always been fine.

Alex: Yes.

**ArkansasAlex** · 12-08-2004, 08:28 PM

Thanks bro, I was wanting to up the dosage but wasnt sure, I also have 2 kits of finaplix , but I might save those (since my kit wont ever come in). Since I had more EQ enough EQ to do 20 weeks at 400mg/week, and iddnt want to have like 5 ml left, so I will up it to 600 and run the cyp at 600, and the drol at 50mg a day, just have to figure out what to do about the short halflife of drol.

Peace
Alex

**bignatt** · 12-08-2004, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by hooker

Natt: I dunno...I suspect that you can, with doses of 400-500mgs or so. I have friends who have run that type of Eq only cycle and are ok. One of my friends ONLY does Eq. He's always been fine.

Alex: Yes.

I appreciate your input

**Property of Steroid.com** · 12-08-2004, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by ArkansasAlex

the drol at 50mg a day, just have to figure out what to do about the short halflife of drol.

Peace
Alex

Don't worry about the 1/2 life of drol. People make things too complicated....

**Ripdx** · 12-09-2004, 10:55 AM

sorry it took a day to respond........I ran 250testen my first cycle and went from 171lbs to 194 about 13%bf. Then i ran 500 test and went from 194 to 205. Im 21yrs old and 6'2

**The Baron** · 12-09-2004, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rogue50

can anyone tell me if im overtraining, im takin test while playing hockey everyday and cardio and then going to the gym at night, is this too much even while being on test? thanks for any help

Maybe not overtraining but it depends on what you are doing in the gym. Also how much recovery you are getting. Most guys especially young guys, 20's or 30's, DO overtrain. Dorian often did only ONE SET of an exercise. That is after observing increased results from fewer and fewer sets. The biggest factor though is length of recovery between sessions for any one bodypart. It is hard to truly isolate a body part and not hit it at all on any other day. There is a lot of overlap. And you got guys who insist that their workout cycle be exactly 7 days long, like 7 is a magic number or something. I like doing a push/pull/legs split with two rest days between sessions, so the cycle is 9 days long. Currently I am doing a 10 day low volume split. Trying to stick to some sort of weekly thing is limiting and usually has the trainee compromising recovery time in some fashion.

Juice will decrease your need for recovery time and will enable you to see the same results on too-high volume. Nevertheless I would urge you to examine your routine and try eliminate redundant sets or worthless fluff, and make sure you are getting enough rest days and enough sleep. I don't think your hockey will interfere all that much, though legs day might be rough on your hockey game.

**The Baron** · 12-09-2004, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by bmwrob

18 years old and cycling? BAD. To answer your question.... probably, but start your own thread and ask this question. You will get better responses by doing that then by jacking someone elses thread.

Yeah... how did that get in this thread? And I replied, too. I feel like a bozo. Sorry guys.