Question about Doing a cycle

**joeybenz** · 12-10-2004, 10:41 AM

My question is that my 1st cycle I did 400 mg of Deca a week for 12 weeks and 400 mg of Test cyp a week for 13 weeks without any nolva or clomid. I gained 30 lbs from my first cycle. Very happy with results. My 2nd cycle was 400mg of EQ a week for 14 weeks and 500mg of Test Enant a week for 15 weeks with proper 10mg nolva ed and proper pct of clomid. My results weren't great. I think I got fake gear on my 2nd cycle.

Now my question is If I do the same cycle from my first time using gear would my results be the same? Should I keep the Dosage the same as the first time 400mg of deca and 400 test cyp?
or
example:
week 1-13 500mg Deca
week 1-14 600mg Test Cyp
10mg nolva ed
clomid for pct
(anything else that I can add?)

Also thinking about throwing winny in there but Which week should that go into if I decide to stay with the deca and cyp? Do you guys think thats a good idea? Any input on cycle for bulking please feel free and help out.

**joeybenz** · 12-10-2004, 10:54 AM

bump

**BUYLONGTERM** · 12-10-2004, 10:54 AM

You definitely want to run your test 100mg higher than your Deca . With EQ, you can keep the doses the same. You can throw in some Winny the last 6 weeks of the cycle.

If you got great results, then I see no reason to up the doses...Just make sure your diet is in check.

**joeybenz** · 12-10-2004, 10:57 AM

ok so this looks good?

wk 1-13 500mg deca
wk 1-14 600mg cyp or enant
wk 8-14 ?mg can someone give me an answer to this?
10mg nolva ed
clomid for pct

**BUYLONGTERM** · 12-10-2004, 11:00 AM

If your referring to mg's of Winstrol , the best dose is 50mg ED!!!

**IronRuffy** · 12-10-2004, 11:00 AM

Why do people say that your test should be run higher than deca ???

**IronRuffy** · 12-10-2004, 11:02 AM

Throw some fina in for your weeks 8-14.....

**BigMike J** · 12-10-2004, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by IronRuffy

Why do people say that your test should be run higher than deca???

to avoid possible deca dick.

**joeybenz** · 12-10-2004, 11:07 AM

I was think about fina but I'm really prone to getting acne so I want to stay away from fina---hearing the the fina is great but sides are bad.

**IronRuffy** · 12-10-2004, 11:13 AM

Fina won't give ya acne....sides aren't any diff than with test.. And Deca Dick is way over rated... done lots of deca, no problems.

**ironpumpindoc** · 12-10-2004, 11:21 AM

Just wondering how long you waited between cycles? You have to remember the differences between the drugs you used when you talk about gains. What kind of progress did you make on your second cycle? and also, everyone's body reacts differently to different products. You may have gotten bad gear, but you gotta remember that the deca usually will pack on a lot of extra water.

**ironpumpindoc** · 12-10-2004, 11:24 AM

Also, to add some advice about fina and acne. Acne is mostly caused by the body saying what the **** is up with my hormones, so it gives you acne. That comes from fluctuating levels. I just came off a fina test cycle and had no acne byproduct until I stopped the fina and ran test for the last 3 weeks. This is the reason so many people completely break out when the go on clomid. Try daily injections to keep your levels more stable. It is a real pain, but you will have less side effects all around and less water from any product. If you decide to go with fina, you will probably feel your prostate grow to what you will think is the size of a softball . . . and it can almost be painful to ejaculate. Have fun.

**joeybenz** · 12-10-2004, 01:59 PM

I've waited a year between cycles. ironpump are you saying to do or not to do fina? because in your post you saying about fina it doesn't seem fun. "prostate grow to what you will think is the size of a softball . . . and it can almost be painful to ejaculate. Have fun."