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12-10-2004, 04:17 AM #1
kick start & end cycle w/ orals? --apologies if this is a repeat--
Just curious if anyone had any useful info or links that I could read up on to figure out the efficacy/safety of kickstarting a cycle with orals, and also ending the cycle with orals. I searched for a while on the topic in the archives and came up w/ nothing, so if anybody has any input, or any useful links they could shoot this way it would be much appreciated. Also, what orals are safe to use with this method? I have read that this is a somewhat common approach when using strictly dbol , but are other orals acceptable (e.g. - Abombs)? If it is too dangerous to kick start AND end with anadrol , would it be reasonable to mix the two, for instance, start your cycle w/ anadrol and end it with dbol?
***This may be a stupid question, but I'm having trouble finding literature on this, and this is a question I haven't seen around
Thx bros
MMLast edited by millionmillionaires; 12-10-2004 at 04:26 AM.
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12-10-2004, 06:41 AM #2
I will jumpstart a cycle with them but i never used them at the end.
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12-10-2004, 07:00 AM #3
Jumpstart and at end. I do not use test prop, so I will use an oral at the end up until pct starts.
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12-10-2004, 07:43 AM #4VET Retired
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Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
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12-10-2004, 07:45 AM #5Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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12-10-2004, 08:06 AM #6
I jumpstart & end with Prop and/or Var
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12-10-2004, 08:13 AM #7
bor. I have used dbol ..for 12wks. before...no liver damage...its overreated. if you were to do that for years thats were the problems come into play..anyways I used dobol or abombs for the first 4-5wks..untill I started to take prop..now I love prop to start and end..I wont even touch dbol anymore...If i was going to use dbol at he end I would only use 10-15mgs in the morning only..this way it will allow my body to recover but still have a boost in test.. then start your pct when you would..
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12-10-2004, 08:13 AM #8
PROP.
peace
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12-10-2004, 08:18 AM #9Originally Posted by HollywoodM3
peace
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12-10-2004, 06:51 PM #10Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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12-10-2004, 07:13 PM #11Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by millionmillionairesLast edited by BASK8KACE; 12-10-2004 at 07:21 PM.
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12-10-2004, 07:38 PM #12Originally Posted by BASK8KACE
Do you carry the dbol out to the day before pct begins? Do you ramp up the dose as the test disappates?
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12-10-2004, 07:44 PM #13Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by The Baron
The PCT would have started 3 weeks after the last injection (since I was using dbol, deca and test). I break the rules when it comes to PCT. I don't use PCT because I'm on HRT. I do, however take a break from HRT too, since my red blood cell count (RBC) tends to be way out of the normal range at the end of a cycle. High RBC can lead to stroke, so I get blood tests regularly to see where I am at the beginning and end of a cycle.
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