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    Lightbulb Friend decides on PROP for first cycle

    Hey guys ... my buddy has finally decided that he's gonna do prop for a first cycle. He originally was gonna do a winni only but after taking some advice he realized that this is the better choice. Here's what he has planned out. What do u guys think ?

    1-10 Prop 100mg ED
    11-13 Clomid Therapy
    11-14 Nolva 20mg ED

    Clen 1-2,5-6,9-10,13-14
    20-140mcg ED


    T3 Schedule (Mcg)
    3 - 20,20,20,40,40,40,60
    4 - 60,60,80,80,80,100,100
    5 – 100,100,100,100,100,100,100
    6 - 100,100,80,80,80,60,60
    7 – 40,40,40,20,20,20,20


    What do u guys think of this as a first cycle for him ??
    Also, should he be using LETRO during the 10 weeks that he is on prop ?

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    why use letro with prop? and why waste first cycle on cutting?

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    check out hooker's thread on clen ....your friend is going to want to change his clen weeks.

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    ED injects aren't going to be fun for him.
    What are his stats?

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    1-10 Prop 100mg ED

    Have Fun with those . 5 weeks of ED prop shots is enough for me.

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    jackman the reason he is taking prop is because he doesnt want to gain a lot of water retention ... he wants no bloating with lots of lean gains

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    i love prop and think the ed shots r well worth it, but for a 1st cycle i wouldnt do it! but if he thinks hes up to it then its koo. just make sure he rotates his injection sites a lot-delts,tris,legs,glutes r the best ones IMO.

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    he also said he doesnt mind ED injections

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    Brave guy for first cycle.

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    700mg is too high IMO for a first cycle.

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    hey demon ... do u think he should do the clen for 6 weeks straight ?

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    y do u think its too high iowa ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    hey demon ... do u think he should do the clen for 6 weeks straight ?
    2 weeks on 2 weeks off for 12 weeks, in the 2 weeks off he can use an eca stack

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    hey tycin ... i read in one of hooker's posts that the 2on/2off theory is dead ... that u could take it for longer periods of time

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    im not sure on that, i always do 2 weesk on 2 weeks off. ive heard if u do it longer u should take benadryl for it to keep working.

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    hmmm, why are you posting threads for your friend when in fact he can do it himself? Can you give us YOUR friends stats, age, experience, diet, ass knowledge, etc???

    Not a flame just curious??? Let us know

    Latin

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    yeah ... i got another question

    Do you think my buddy should use prop/enan instead of prop only ?

    1-4 Prop 50mg ED
    1-10 Enan 500mg
    11-12 Prop 50mg ED

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    well latin .... my friend is sitting right next to me .... he's not a member ... and since i was already on the site it's easier for me to just post for him

    i dont need to hide behind some cover

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    Latin

    He's 5'9 about 210, 20yr old ... never used ... this is his first cycle ... as stated b4
    He works out 4 times a week ... cardio 5 times a week for 30 min
    Been lifting for past 3 yrs
    Diet is High Protein/Low Carb

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    Quote Originally Posted by chgolatin2
    hmmm, why are you posting threads for your friend when in fact he can do it himself? Can you give us YOUR friends stats, age, experience, diet, ass knowledge, etc???

    Not a flame just curious??? Let us know

    Latin
    why does everyone assume this? not everyone has a computer and there could b a lot of reasons why. so if i post a question for my buddy its automatically really for ME??

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    thanx tycin ... i appreciate that

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    im getting sick of all these smartasses,

    anyways as for test e instead and frontloadin with prop its not a bad idea but he will get more bloat off the test e, it will give him more size but if hes up for ed injections then id go for it!

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    do u think taking letro through would eliminate the bloat ??? then switch off to nolva for PCT ?

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    ya femara will help the bloat.

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    what would yield the leaner, better results ??

    prop only or enan/prop ?

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    its funny how people who start threads like these always say my friend this and that. its ok bro just tell us the truth and come out. we know its you doin this cycle. its ok

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    Just keep in mind that not all people have problems with bloat and some it can be controlled with ancilliarys. I dont bloat up very much hense the name Anhydro meaning without water..

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    jackman the reason he is taking prop is because he doesnt want to gain a lot of water retention ... he wants no bloating with lots of lean gains
    did you even read what i said? prop barley gives and water and nolva would take care of any from prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    jackman the reason he is taking prop is because he doesnt want to gain a lot of water retention ... he wants no bloating with lots of lean gains
    did you even read what i said? prop barley gives and water and nolva would take care of any from prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    jackman the reason he is taking prop is because he doesnt want to gain a lot of water retention ... he wants no bloating with lots of lean gains
    did you even read what i said? prop barley gives and water and nolva would take care of any from prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33
    jackman the reason he is taking prop is because he doesnt want to gain a lot of water retention ... he wants no bloating with lots of lean gains
    did you even read what i said? prop barley gives and water and nolva would take care of any from prop.

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    run prop at 75mg/ed. 50 is not enough. im currently running my first cycle of prop at 75mg/ed. just make sure he has about four different places to inject to minimize scar tissue. also i would recommend taking nolva at 10mg/ed as well throughout the cycle. if you have any questions further about prop give me a ring. Good luck to your bud bro.

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    alright thanx plastic ... ill be PMing u one of these days

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