My gyno surgery experience.

**calidude** · 12-17-2004, 01:35 AM

Great Info Bro.

**blown** · 12-17-2004, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by LACBodybuilder

as of now i have not paid a cent. however the surgery was just 1 1/2 weeks ago. i recieved a note from the insurance stating that i would be required to pay the entire bill. however, i will be appealing this, and i will post what the bill amount is when i recieve one.

How much was the entire bill?

I have some gyno I got during puberty on one side. The doctor said it would not be covered by insurance since it's considered cosmetic.

**LACBodybuilder** · 12-17-2004, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by IronRuffy

How many times are you required to see the physician to get the blood drained out? I had them drained 2 times following my surgery...

I havent had to go once. Ive had no blood build up at all luckily.

**LACBodybuilder** · 12-17-2004, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by blown

How much was the entire bill?

I have some gyno I got during puberty on one side. The doctor said it would not be covered by insurance since it's considered cosmetic.

I have recieved my surgeons bill, and it is $1655 not including hospital or anestesiologist. So it will end up being a lot more. If you got gyno from puberty you can potentially get it covered. just find a doctor and tell them how much the gyno is irritating and painful and that it makes it hard to lead a normal life with the constant pain (bs or not). Also include that male gyno leads to an increase risk of breast cancer in males. If you can make it appear that the appearance aspect isnt the reason for the surgery than you can get it covered. Just make sure a specialist does it that is a cosmetic surgeon.

**PlasticFuture112** · 12-17-2004, 04:09 AM

sorry to hear about your situation bro. Honestly i felt that this being your first cycle you screwed up bigtime. for a first cycle it is recommended to take a single ester test only cycle. now because you took multiple aas you might never be able to realize what or how you got this "gyno". You probably had a genetic predisposition to gyno if you ask me, but if it was in fact the AAS it was because you took too much for your body to handle on its first cycle and had adverse effects, hence gyno. a little word of advice, its better to start cycles small and then gradually add more because that way you will be able to pinpoint which aas is giving you these negative effects and be able to fix the problem at hand. im really sorry that you had to go through the surgury and in fact had a form of gyno but as everyone in here probably knows, is that you should have been the smarter one and used a small, test only cycle, or even test with one other thing cycle. possibly you even researched wrong? i dont mean to bash i just dont like to see people new to the anabolic scene who are taking a massive cycle for their first ever cycle. its horrible. I know i may not be the one to judge because i am currently on my first cycle but i researched enough to realize that test only will give me the benefits i need and desire. next cycle please cut down all the stuff you are taking and take it slow, theres no need to rush to get big. heck, you would have realize if you would have researched that if you had done a single ester test you would have gained massive size since your body is not accustomed to that much test in the body. probably would have gained the most from that then any other cycle you could have taken. sorry to nag, good luck on the future and hope your pecs feel better.

**LACBodybuilder** · 12-17-2004, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by PlasticFuture112

sorry to hear about your situation bro. Honestly i felt that this being your first cycle you screwed up bigtime. for a first cycle it is recommended to take a single ester test only cycle. now because you took multiple aas you might never be able to realize what or how you got this "gyno". You probably had a genetic predisposition to gyno if you ask me, but if it was in fact the AAS it was because you took too much for your body to handle on its first cycle and had adverse effects, hence gyno. a little word of advice, its better to start cycles small and then gradually add more because that way you will be able to pinpoint which aas is giving you these negative effects and be able to fix the problem at hand. im really sorry that you had to go through the surgury and in fact had a form of gyno but as everyone in here probably knows, is that you should have been the smarter one and used a small, test only cycle, or even test with one other thing cycle. possibly you even researched wrong? i dont mean to bash i just dont like to see people new to the anabolic scene who are taking a massive cycle for their first ever cycle. its horrible. I know i may not be the one to judge because i am currently on my first cycle but i researched enough to realize that test only will give me the benefits i need and desire. next cycle please cut down all the stuff you are taking and take it slow, theres no need to rush to get big. heck, you would have realize if you would have researched that if you had done a single ester test you would have gained massive size since your body is not accustomed to that much test in the body. probably would have gained the most from that then any other cycle you could have taken. sorry to nag, good luck on the future and hope your pecs feel better.

All very true points, but let me explain alittle. When i started my first cycle i did plent y of research. Dont say i didnt because i was on here night and day before i started. While many people believe that a first cycle should be test only, i asked many people who thought that a test/deca /dbol cycle also was an ok choice. About the single ester test, all i had access to was omna, nothing else. no prop, eth, or cyp. just omna. And saying i dont know what caused the gyno is not true. If i got it after only 5 days that it HAD to be the dbol. nothing else kicks in that fast, not even the prop in the omna. I am genetically predisposed to gyno, and i am also subseptible to progestrogen gyno as well. I know these things. However I would not change my first cycle for anything. Although i wasnt happy with the gyno i did gain 30 lbs and keep about 25 of them. And now the gyno problem is corrected, so i am happy. thanks

**jokerswild** · 11-28-2005, 09:26 PM

If anyone is considering gyno surgery I recommend Dr. Bermant in Virginia. See for yourself and google his sight. From mild to severe, this guy is an absolute perfectionist. Regretful now, I chose to go with another Dr. that really effed up because he didn't perform the precision work he claimed he could do.