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    My gyno surgery experience.

    I just wanted to take the time to tell the members of this board about my experience i have recently had with my gyno surgery. As some members who have seen my post know i began developing gyno after just 5 days on a dbol , test, deca cycle. i was running nolva and even bumped it up to 80mg a day but nothing could reverse it. I lived with the gyno but as of october i decided it wasnt going to go away naturally. i went to a phycian who claimed the bump was a fluid build-up and not gyno. this, as i knew was wrong. i went to a second physcian who immediatly recognized it as gyno and sent me to a specialist. my surgeon decided that my gyno was instead 2 cysts under my nipple and arranged for me to have a breast biopsy. my surgery was conducted on dec. 10th. 2 small incisions under the aereola (nipple) where made, tissue and glands removed, and stitched up with a dissolving stitch. it was a 45 minuted procedure and outpatient. after surgery and even up til now i have experienced absolutly NO pain. I will be off lifting for three weeks, but all in all it was not a bad experience.

    Sorry to ramble, but i just wanted to make it known that this is not a painful or disfiguring procedure. and if gyno is causing you to be self conscious than the surgery is definitly the way to go.

    As a side note my insurance company who had originally agreed to pay for the surgery has apparantly changed there mind. kinda sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by LACBodybuilder
    I just wanted to take the time to tell the members of this board about my experience i have recently had with my gyno surgery. As some members who have seen my post know i began developing gyno after just 5 days on a dbol , test, deca cycle. i was running nolva and even bumped it up to 80mg a day but nothing could reverse it. I lived with the gyno but as of october i decided it wasnt going to go away naturally. i went to a phycian who claimed the bump was a fluid build-up and not gyno. this, as i knew was wrong. i went to a second physcian who immediatly recognized it as gyno and sent me to a specialist. my surgeon decided that my gyno was instead 2 cysts under my nipple and arranged for me to have a breast biopsy. my surgery was conducted on dec. 10th. 2 small incisions under the aereola (nipple) where made, tissue and glands removed, and stitched up with a dissolving stitch. it was a 45 minuted procedure and outpatient. after surgery and even up til now i have experienced absolutly NO pain. I will be off lifting for three weeks, but all in all it was not a bad experience.

    Sorry to ramble, but i just wanted to make it known that this is not a painful or disfiguring procedure. and if gyno is causing you to be self conscious than the surgery is definitly the way to go.

    As a side note my insurance company who had originally agreed to pay for the surgery has apparantly changed there mind. kinda sucks
    how much did it cost you?

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    still trying to settle with insurance company. i have a physicians recommendation for the surgery, so we are going to appeal the companies decision not to pay. hopefully i can get this cleared up.

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    Well as of right now have you paid any money at all? If so how much bro?

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    Thats good to hear the surgury went well. I had the sh*t removed last year, and I was out of the weight room for 5 weeks. But it was definetly worth it. Good luck with recovery.

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    as of now i have not paid a cent. however the surgery was just 1 1/2 weeks ago. i recieved a note from the insurance stating that i would be required to pay the entire bill. however, i will be appealing this, and i will post what the bill amount is when i recieve one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg_28
    Thats good to hear the surgury went well. I had the sh*t removed last year, and I was out of the weight room for 5 weeks. But it was definetly worth it. Good luck with recovery.
    yeah, i have to miss 3 weeks. im at 1 1/2 and im already going nuts. i am now completely avoiding mirrors and scales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg_28
    Thats good to hear the surgury went well. I had the sh*t removed last year, and I was out of the weight room for 5 weeks. But it was definetly worth it. Good luck with recovery.
    yeah, i have to miss 3 weeks. im at 1 1/2 and im already going nuts. i am now completely avoiding mirrors and scales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg_28
    Thats good to hear the surgury went well. I had the sh*t removed last year, and I was out of the weight room for 5 weeks. But it was definetly worth it. Good luck with recovery.
    yeah, i have to miss 3 weeks. im at 1 1/2 and im already going nuts. i am now completely avoiding mirrors and scales.

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    i apologize for the triple post, not sure what happen there

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    Gyno after 5 days of use...sounds kind of scary! I have some questions.. was this your first cycle? Can you list up the doses you were taken? How big tits did you get? Haha.. seriously, were they notisable through your clothes?

    Can you ever develop gyno again?
    Will the operation be visible to your skin?
    Do you think it was the dbol that caused gyno?
    Did you have sore nipples when you were young btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace ventura
    Gyno after 5 days of use...sounds kind of scary! I have some questions.. was this your first cycle? Can you list up the doses you were taken? How big tits did you get? Haha.. seriously, were they notisable through your clothes?

    Can you ever develop gyno again?
    Will the operation be visible to your skin?
    Do you think it was the dbol that caused gyno?
    Did you have sore nipples when you were young btw?

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    ok, this was my first cycle. i was running...
    Sust wks 1-12 500mg/wk
    deca wks 1-10 400mg/wk
    dbol (Gyno causer) 40mg/ed
    nolva 20mg/ed
    b6 400mg/ed
    and normal pct...

    as for the other questions. i really didnt develpoe tits, i developed a large lump behind my nipple, more so on the left than the right. this cause my left nipple to sag lower than my right. my nipple on the left was also constantly poking out due to the lump and would stick through almost all my close. it appeared like i was nipping 24/7.

    i can potentially develope gyno again, due to the small amount of gland that must remain. but i am going heavy on nolva and proviron in hopes that i dont.
    the incision runs right along the bottom of the nipple. the scar will blend in with the nipple and is usually not visible.
    Definitly that f*cking dbol that did it.
    Did not ever have sore nipples when i was young.

    i hope this helps, thanks for the inquiry.

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.undefined

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.

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    If you get the "gland removed" does that mean gyno will never come back?

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    Ok bro., a quick question for you so I can educated myself further. I have done three cycles and am currently running my fourth. My cycles were very mild in comparison to some. I'm talking about 400mg EQ/250mg Test Cypio. etc.... Get my drift. I have never had any problems with estrogen or gyno or any symptoms. I never even took Nolva while on-cycle. I started 5 weeks ago with 450mg Deca and 350mg of Test Enth.( pretty strong ha.LOL) Anyways, a few weeks ago, I started checking my nipples so regularly that I made the left one hurt and get sore, no doubt from constantly ****in with em. Just the left one hurts a little and I feel a small elongated bumb under the top outer circle. Not the nipple.
    Now my question is: Have I just irritated the site from rubbing it so much since I never felt any soreness at any time. Also, its just my left one. The right one is nothing abnormal and does not even have that tissue in it, but also I have not messed with it very much. Also do you or anyone else reading this think 450mg Deca/350mg Test is enough to cause gyno in someone who has had no previous problems with doses and only 100-200mg less? Thanks for any replys.

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    Geez bro, I am glad It went well. Hopefully the insurance pays the bill man. Post it when you get a number.

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    Geez bro, I am glad It went well. Hopefully the insurance pays the bill man. Post it when you get a number.

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    If you get the "gland removed" does that mean gyno will never come back?

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    I am about to look into gyno surgery, I would like to know you Insurance company's name. That's lame to not pay for it. I am getting signed verification and sticking within network. I have been told to it will be covered, but I also kinda don't want to have to hassle someone to keep there end.

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    Im guessing something was messed up with the board last night seeing all those repeated posts. but to answer the questions.
    Mr. Hyde you may just be irritating the area, but just to be safe i would start on some nolva and quit playing with it to see how you feel. I have friends who can run insane amounts of stuff and never show a sign of gyno, let i touch a dbol pill and im screwed.

    smbmx63, they never remove all the gland, just most of it. this decreases the chances of gyno, but it is still possible.

    kaorialfred, my insurance is Humana PPO, i hope everyone works out for you.

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    kaorialfred, my insurance is Humana PPO, i hope everyone works out for you.[/QUOTE]


    I have Cigna, its thru my wife's company. They are very liberal about what they cover, it's a Cali thing I would imagine.

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    Does anyone know if once you get that surgery done, are you immune to gyno reocurring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marka
    Does anyone know if once you get that surgery done, are you immune to gyno reocurring?

    if u get the whole gland removed, then yes u acn never get it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    if u get the whole gland removed, then yes u acn never get it again.
    however most doctors will not remove the whole gland. they usually leave a small piece under the nipple to prevent the nipple from sinking in.

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    what would be the draw-backs of having the whole gland removed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smbmx63
    what would be the draw-backs of having the whole gland removed?
    your nipple would indent into your chest because you have removed the large gland that use to be behind it. you can see it on some people when they flex their chest. the nipple kind of goes into the chest while the chest is flaring out. its not terrible, but it is noticable. also, it is said that removing the whole gland can lead to a decrease or no nipple sensation. take that for what you will.

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    thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50%Natural
    thanks for sharing
    No problem. I just see alot of people with threads saying they are worried about their surgery or wanting to know the results of the surgery. I just wanted people to know that the surgery and recovery is basically painless. And yes, being out of the gym for 3 weeks+ definitly sucks, but its worth it in the end. And I also want to take the time to give the message to people posting "Do you think this is gyno?" threads. If you even begin to think you are developing gyno please bump the nolva up to 60-80mg/ed. Start doing this even before you make the post. Just to be safe. An extra 50$ on nolva now sure as hell beats an extra 6000$ down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LACBodybuilder
    ok, this was my first cycle. i was running...
    Sust wks 1-12 500mg/wk
    deca wks 1-10 400mg/wk
    dbol (Gyno causer) 40mg/ed
    nolva 20mg/ed
    b6 400mg/ed
    and normal pct...

    as for the other questions. i really didnt develpoe tits, i developed a large lump behind my nipple, more so on the left than the right. this cause my left nipple to sag lower than my right. my nipple on the left was also constantly poking out due to the lump and would stick through almost all my close. it appeared like i was nipping 24/7.

    i can potentially develope gyno again, due to the small amount of gland that must remain. but i am going heavy on nolva and proviron in hopes that i dont.
    the incision runs right along the bottom of the nipple. the scar will blend in with the nipple and is usually not visible.
    Definitly that f*cking dbol that did it.
    Did not ever have sore nipples when i was young.

    i hope this helps, thanks for the inquiry.
    Was that your symtoms of your gyno caused by dbol bro? Sore nipples?
    I heard that it's mainly itchy nipples for symptoms

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    Was that your symtoms of your gyno caused by dbol bro? Sore nipples?
    I heard that it's mainly itchy nipples for symptoms
    I got no real symptoms. One day my nipples were fine, the next day there was a lump underneath the left. i uped the nolva and it never went away. then i took nolva back down to normal and the left got bigger and the right developed a little one. I got no itchy/puffy/sore nipples. i basically got blindsided by it.

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    How many times are you required to see the physician to get the blood drained out? I had them drained 2 times following my surgery...

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    Ok so I'm a little worried here I think my minds playing tricks on me cause i've never had any gyno probs before cept my puburty gyno. Are the lumps noticable? Because I've always gained fat in my chest easily when i get over 13% in bulking cycles but I'm starting to pinkc and push my nips alot. I think I'm making them sore but I mean I feel the little bumps of fat liek you would if you sqeezed anywhere else on your body. Are the gyno lumps hard? Or somewhat soft?

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