I'm getting a blood test .....

[spud]

I'm finishing week 2 of my PCT after a 12 week cycle. In 2 weeks, one week after I finish my clomid, I'm getting blood drawn for cholesterol, PSA, and testosterone .

My question is where do you all think my test levels will be? Think they'll still be low from the cycle? Will the clomid have raised it to my normal levels? Could clomid have actually raised it above my natural levels at that time when I'm tested?

I'm thinking about asking for HRT since at my age - 45, mens test levels are droping and I'm sure mine is too - haven't had morning wood in years. I'm wondering if I should hold off on the testosterone test. What do you all think?

I should add my cycle was
40 mg dbol weeks 1-3
750mg test/week 1-12
400mg deca /week 1-10
50mg tren ED 5-12

clomid PCT (with nolva for the first few days)
Day 1&2 200mg
Day 3-11 100mg/day
Day 12-21 50mg/day

Thanks and Happy Holidays!

Spud

[spud]

Anyone want to venture a guess where test levels are at that point?

thanks,
spud

[seanw]

I wouldnt bother with the test for at least a month after PCT ends. If you do do it then this may help

Someone on here posted this a while back and I saved it.

Now on with the Referance ranges - BTW, these are from Quest Diagnostics (biggest lab network in the US):

CBC with Differential and Platelet
White Blood Cell count: 3.8 - 10.8 Thous/mcL
Red Blood Cell count: 4.2 - 5.8 Mill/mcl
Hemoglobin: 13.2 - 17.1 g/dL
Hematocrit: 38.5 - 50.0%
MCV: 80 - 100 fL
MCH: 27 - 33 pg
MCHC: 32 - 36 g/dL
RDW: 11 - 15%
Platelet Count: 140 - 400 Thous/mcL
MPV: 7.5 - 11.5 fL
Neutrophils, Absolute: 1500 - 7800 Cells/mcL
Lymphocytes, Absolute: 850 - 3900 Cells/mcL
Monocytes, Absolute: 200 - 950 Cells/mcL
Eosinophils, Absolute: 15 - 500 Cells/mcL
Basophils, Absolute: 0 - 200 Cells/mcL

Glucose, non-fasting: 65 - 125 mg/dL
Glucose, fasting: 65 - 109 mg/dL

Automated Chemistries
Urea Nitrogen: 7 -25 mg/dL
Creatinine: 0.5 - 1.4 mg/dL
BUN/Creatinine: 6 - 25
Sodium: 135 - 146 mmol/L
Potassium: 3.5 - 5.3 mmol/L
Chloride: 98 - 110 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide: 21 - 33 mmol/L
Calcium: 8.5 - 10.4 mg/dL
Phosphorus: 2.5 - 4.5 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphatase: 20 -125 U/L
Liver enzyme, AST: 2 - 50 U/L
Liver enzyme, ALT: 2 - 60 U/L
Bilirubin, Total: 0.2 - 1.5 mg/dL
Bilirubin, Direct: 0.0 - 0.3 mg/dL
Protein, Total: 6.9 - 8.3 g/dL
Albumin: 3.7 - 5.1 g/dL
Globulin, Calculated: 2.2 - 4.2 g/dL
A/G ratio: 0.8 - 2.0
LD: 100 - 250 U/L
Uric Acid: 2.7 - 8.2 mg/dL
GGT: 2 - 80 U/L
Cholesterol, Total: < 200 mg/dL
Triglycerides: < 150 mg/dL
Iron: 40 - 190 ug/dL

Thyroid Panel
T3, Total: 60 - 181 ng/dL
T4, Free: 0.8 - 1.8 ng/dL
T4, Total: 4.5 - 12.8 ug/dL
TSH: 0.4 - 5.5 mIU/L

Homocysteine (Cardio) , FPIA
Homocysteine: < 11.4 MICROmol/L

PSA - Prostate Specific Antigen
PSA, Total: < 4.1 ng/mL
PSA, Free and Free %: See ref. scale below
Reference scale:
PSA, 0 - 2 ng/mL = approx. 1% Probability of Cancer
PSA, 2 - 4 ng/mL = approx. 15% Probability of Cancer
PSA, 4.1 - 10 ng/mL & Free 0-10% = approx. 56% Probability of Cancer
PSA, 4.1 - 10 ng/mL & Free 11-15% = approx. 28% Probability of Cancer
PSA, 4.1 - 10 ng/mL & Free 16-20% = approx. 20% Probability of Cancer
PSA, 4.1 - 10 ng/mL & Free 21-25% = approx. 16% Probability of Cancer
PSA, 4.1 - 10 ng/mL & Free > 26% = approx. 8% Probability of Cancer
PSA > 10 = > 50% Probability of Cancer

Testosterone , LH & Estradiol
Testosterone, Total: 260 - 1000 ng/dL
Testosterone, Free: 50 - 210 pg/mL
Testosterone, Free %: 1.0 - 2.7%
Estradiol: < 32 pg/mL
LH: 1.5 - 9.3 mIU/mL

Alright, that's it for the ranges. Hopefully this will answer a number of peoples questions about what is considered "normal" for a male.

[RubaHed]

I got on hrt when I was 42, before I did any cycles, just andro. Because my testosterone level was 210, I started with monthly shots from the doctor. I'm 47 and have been on a continous test run for 5 years with my dosages around the 750 mg/wk. So I get my monthly 2 cc's and then do about 500-750mg a week on my own. If I could go back and do it all over, I probably wouldn't get on test. But I can't cry over spilt milk.



RubaHed

[spud]

Thanks for the info guys!

Why do you have regrets RubaHed?

spud

[spud]

HDL 35mg/dl
LDL 108mg/dl

total testosterone 657ng/dl

everything else looks really good so I think I'm ready for another cycle!

wahoo!
spud