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    AI Very Confusing, Help Pls!!

    I am thinking of trying a cycle (my very first one) and I want to get the AI's right.

    -I am 235 lbs, Fat-ass (comming off surgery)
    -when I start I'll be 200lbs @ 11-13%BF,
    -23 yrs old.
    -Been lifting under a trainer since I was 16 so I know what I am doing, also a pro fighter.
    -Good diet habits.
    -Goals: 220lbs @ 6-8%BF 1 YEAR GONNA FIGHT @ 185lbs

    Dont want to loose my hair so I am staying away from stuff converting to DHT.
    Thinking about running:
    Deca 200mg/week weeks 1-10
    Test E 250mg/week weeks 1-12
    Nolva 10mg/ED Weeks 1-12 ??? (heard it from bignat)
    PCT
    Clomid 50mg/ED weeks 14-16
    T3/Clen weeks 14-18
    (I know this cycle does not have much to it but I would like to take it easy and see how my body takes this stuff)

    My question now what to take during the cycle to be safe?

    I read that it is good to have nolva on hand to treat symptoms.
    Wondering about femara (AR-R letro), will I need it for what I am taking?

    One more thing to keep in mind for those who want to help me out:
    When I ruptured my cervical disks months back I was given 3 epidural steroid injections each a week apart. Barely helped numbness but did good for pain!
    I know there was cortizone in the shots but dont know what else, anyway I had BAD acne on my arms and back for months after. Does that mean the test will do the same?......will the anti's remedy acne?

    Thanks Bros I know this is a lot to ask but I would really apreciate your help!
    I have been searching and reading up lots and will continue to do so. This sight is bad ass, cool mods and bros alike

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    Come on guys, 25 people and not one responce,,

    dont be greedy now, its the season for giving and sharing!!

    lol hehe!!!

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    Since this is your first cycle you should drop the deca ............ and 200mg /wk you wouldn't see much from it anyway. You should also bump the test up a bit........ DO not run T3 durring PCT....... it could diminish all gains from the cycle what may be better in your situation is to run12.5mcg of T3 through the cycle. This will help in protein synthisis and help with fat loss.

    On the acne......... you may be fine on the test......... The only AAS that breaks me out bad is Fina........ but who knows because everyone's body will react different. You can try running high doses of B5 through your cycle at 5 to 10g daily.

    1 - 10 500mg /wk
    1 - 10 T3 12.5 to 25mcd ED
    1 - 12 Nolva 10mg ED
    1 - 12 L-dex .25mg ED

    Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection
    Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

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    Quote Originally Posted by phwSSJ
    Deca 200mg/week weeks 1-10
    Test E 250mg/week weeks 1-12

    Those are very small doses. If you have small goals, then small doses are appropriate.

    Nolva 10mg/ED Weeks 1-12 ??? (heard it from bignat)
    Don't bother.

    PCT
    Clomid 50mg/ED weeks 14-16
    T3/Clen weeks 14-18
    (I know this cycle does not have much to it but I would like to take it easy and see how my body takes this stuff)
    I prefer Nolva (20mgs/day) to Clomid. Clomid screws with my vision. I don't see why you;d use the T3. The clen may or may not help.

    My question now what to take during the cycle to be safe?
    You probably won't need anything more than your usual protein supps and vitamins.

    I read that it is good to have nolva on hand to treat symptoms.
    Sure. Can't hurt.

    Wondering about femara (AR-R letro), will I need it for what I am taking?
    Probably not.

    One more thing to keep in mind for those who want to help me out:
    When I ruptured my cervical disks months back I was given 3 epidural steroid injections each a week apart. Barely helped numbness but did good for pain!
    I know there was cortizone in the shots but dont know what else, anyway I had BAD acne on my arms and back for months after. Does that mean the test will do the same?......
    No...not necessarily.

    will the anti's remedy acne?
    Possibly.


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    AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT!

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    Now Thats More Like It!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks A Lot Bros!!!!!!!!!!!!

    When I start I am going to be peaking so I just want a little extra push, not looking for too much now. Thats why doses are small.
    Last edited by phwSSJ; 12-19-2004 at 06:34 PM.

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    If you aren't looking for too much, then those doses are fine.

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    you know there are chemcials that prevent the conversion of testosterone to DHT and also promote hair growth (i think)... ones called Proscar.. and the other is called finasteride.. i know you can get finasteride @ www.ancillaryguys.com and i think AR-research sells something like that

    might consider it if you wanna increase those dosages for some more muscle

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    You can get Finasteride here in the AR-R store. It's flavored nicely...and frankly, the AncillaryGuys stuff tastes like monkeyass.

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    Cool bros thanks for the advice,

    I have been reading about the chemical finast, and I am familiar w/ AR-R they are cool!

    Thanks!!!!!!!!
    Last edited by phwSSJ; 12-20-2004 at 05:59 AM.

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