Winstrol depot Vs Winstrol Tabs, witch one ****'s upp the LIVER most?

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12-19-2004, 03:11 PM
Decakur

Winstrol depot Vs Winstrol Tabs, witch one ****'s upp the LIVER most?

witch one ****'s upp the LIVER most?

how much damage take the Liver by winstrol inject?

quick answear i need as my buddy gona order some.
12-19-2004, 03:13 PM
skribbble

I heard tablets were bad news... They go through your system more then once
12-19-2004, 03:14 PM
Money Boss Hustla

Both are the same.
12-19-2004, 03:15 PM
Ivann007

of course the tabs are kickin your liver pretty nice, twice or three time as much as Winstrol Depot does.
12-19-2004, 03:18 PM
Money Boss Hustla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivann007

of course the tabs are kickin your liver pretty nice, twice or three time as much as Winstrol Depot does.

Both are 17aa.

Please show us the data. If I am incorrect I would like to learn.
12-19-2004, 03:51 PM
Ivann007

Have a book at home, was just released 2 month ago. Have read it. The black book, is a german book ( Das Schwarze Buch) Anabole Steroide from D. Siner / M. Bachmann but the real Author is Markus Rühl.

If you want to have the same effekt with tabs like with 50mg Depot, you need to take twice or three times as much on tabs (for the same results) and so the tabs kickin your liver more for the same results. So better use Stanozol Depot but not for to long 6-8 weeks.
12-19-2004, 03:55 PM
tycin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivann007

Have a book at home, was just released 2 month ago. Have read it. The black book, is a german book ( Das Schwarze Buch) Anabole Steroide from D. Siner / M. Bachmann but the real Author is Markus Rühl.

If you want to have the same effekt with tabs like with 50mg Depot, you need to take twice or three times as much on tabs (for the same results) and so the tabs kickin your liver more for the same results. So better use Stanozol Depot but not for to long 6-8 weeks.

ive never heard that b4, IMO tabs on the liver is way over rated.
12-19-2004, 04:00 PM
dieseL atC

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Originally Posted by tycin

ive never heard that b4, IMO tabs on the liver is way over rated.

I second that, orals being liver toxic has been blown out of proportion IMO. Abusing them is a whole different story, but abusing anything has it's negatives.. JMHO
12-19-2004, 04:14 PM
Dude-Man

That doesn't mean that mg/mg pills are worse than depot... it's obvious that if you take more, you'll get more liver damage, so your reply doesn't really make any sense.

if you're taking 50 mg of oral, or 50 mg of injectable, the liver enzyme elevation should be the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivann007

Have a book at home, was just released 2 month ago. Have read it. The black book, is a german book ( Das Schwarze Buch) Anabole Steroide from D. Siner / M. Bachmann but the real Author is Markus Rühl.

If you want to have the same effekt with tabs like with 50mg Depot, you need to take twice or three times as much on tabs (for the same results) and so the tabs kickin your liver more for the same results. So better use Stanozol Depot but not for to long 6-8 weeks.
12-19-2004, 04:21 PM
Ivann007

Can you proof it??? if you think about it, yes it should.But orals go right trough the stomach and liver and loose most of the effect. Orals just have a Half Life of 3-4 h and the effect is noch the same if you take 50mg of Depot or 50mg of tabs. For 50 mg of Depot you need at least 100mg of tabs. Just try it!!!! This are just facts, read trough some steroid books and you will see!!
12-19-2004, 04:31 PM
Dude-Man

I'll make it simple for you. You take 50 mg of drug. all 50 mg at some point are metabolized by the liver. fecal excretion of alkylated hormones is under 3%.. therefore the vast majority is absorbed. Granted, it passes through the liver first.. but...

50 mg is 50 mg when it's in your body... and once it's in your body, it's all going to be metabolized by the liver eventually..

50 mg of oral = 50 mg of injectable as far as toxicity goes.

we're not talking about dose size, we're talking about toxicity per mg.

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Originally Posted by Ivann007

Can you proof it??? if you think about it, yes it should.But orals go right trough the stomach and liver and loose most of the effect. Orals just have a Half Life of 3-4 h and the effect is noch the same if you take 50mg of Depot or 50mg of tabs. For 50 mg of Depot you need at least 100mg of tabs. Just try it!!!! This are just facts, read trough some steroid books and you will see!!
12-19-2004, 04:35 PM
tycin

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Originally Posted by chrisAdams

I'll make it simple for you. You take 50 mg of drug. all 50 mg at some point are metabolized by the liver. fecal excretion of alkylated hormones is under 3%.

50 mg is 50 mg when it's in your body... and once it's in your body, it's all going to be metabolized by the liver.

50 mg of oral = 50 mg of injectable as far as toxicity goes.

we're not talking about dose size, we're talking about toxicity per mg.

i agree! 50mg=50mg if its in ur body.

so ur sayin if u take 10mg/nolva(pill) ur really only gettin like 4-5mg?? :rolleyes:
12-19-2004, 04:37 PM
Jackman

who ever said you need 2-3 x the tabs to get same results is full of ****. speaking from personal experience i did injects and tabs and both works same for me.
12-19-2004, 04:39 PM
spooledup

Aside from my knees getting a little stiff, I got dam good results from QV stan tabs. Better than anavar IMO.
12-19-2004, 04:40 PM
tycin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackman

who ever said you need 2-3 x the tabs to get same results is full of ****. speaking from personal experience i did injects and tabs and both works same for me.

me too, i liked the pills better they're a lot easier
12-19-2004, 04:51 PM
Money Boss Hustla

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisAdams

50 mg of oral = 50 mg of injectable as far as toxicity goes.

Yup. Both are 17aa. They both pass through the liver.

Thanks for the backup. :D