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Hey Bros just need some input im thinking of doing a cycle sometime in the near future and i really want to do Tren but not sure if i should use it with Deca because in a way they are similiar and im thinking it would really increase the risk of gyno because they are both anabolic. Just wondering if anyone has used both together in a cycle and how did you like it?
Some people do.... that crap will shut you down so hard!!! There is no way I would. Why not use test e, tren e and some EQ? Why do you want to use the deca?
why would them both be anabolic cause gyno..tren and deca will give you progesterone induced gyno which is defferent from excessive estrogen gynoQuote:
Originally Posted by AG5678
btw ..i am running both now and not having any problems.i am running 1g of test though so my sex drive is still up..just be sure to take your b6 and you should be good with the gyno..your dick probably wont work though since your not running test but thats a personal issue
ok this is what my cycle would look like a friend of mine is also doing this cycle and is having pretty good results.
wk 1-8 500mg Sustonon 250 (1cc monday, 1cc friday)
wk 1-8 400mg Deca (1cc monday, 1cc friday)
wk 2-11 10mg nolva ED (or 20mg depending on bloat)
wk 10-12 2,000 iu HCG every third day for 15 days
wk 12-14 100mg clomid ED for 15 days (10 more days at 50mg if nuts are still small)
i really want to do Tren and thats why i was asking people who have done Tren in a cycle with Deca and how did it go? Do you recommend it is it worth the extra money?
bump?
i think its a horrible cycle
sorry bro
b4 u do anything educate urself on a.s. it doest seem like u know much about roids
ag, its not is it worth it, but how bad will your hpta shut down and the harder it will be for you to recover. sure, you'll get huge on that stack, but if you dont recover well during PCT, you're going to lose all those gains.
i like your cycle without the tren. I'd drop the hcg too, you dont need it. good luck bro.
sometimes the truth hurts... stay the hell away from sust!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
yes i dont like sust eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
a single ester like test e would be great with deca
1-12 test e
1-11 deca
pct start week 15
proper anti e,s thru out
why are yall hatin on Sust so much? I thought it was good because it kicks in faster
Sust is just a multi estered test.Quote:
Originally Posted by AG5678
TEST IS TEST IS TEST IS TEST!
You will see NO better gains of Sust than Test E. Remember Test is test. You will have to do EOD injections to get the 100% of it out of it, otherwise you are wasting gear. Who wants to waste gear? Not me!
If you are wanting to kick start a cycle of Test E or Cyp. Do prop the first 4 weeks and then you will only have to do the injections 2X a week after that b/c you are using a longer ester version.
Deca and Tren together would be one hell of a mass/strenght builder as they work through different metabolic pathways. However, progesterone is very effective at inhibiting the HTPA, which clomid and nolvadex do not block at the HTPA receptors, not to mention at the mammary as well. This makes progesterone induced HTPA inhibition and gyno harder to treat with conventional methods.
However, with the effective use of cabergoline or bromo one may be able to keep progesterone to non problematic levels. w/o proper bloodwork and a lack of available research to rely on it is a gamble to run the compounds together. I imagine I will run them together in the future when I can more easily afford to do blood work regularly while on cycle.
1-11 500mg Sustonon 250 ~150mg EOD
1-10 400mg Deca --> mix with sust shots accordingly or 200mg 2x wk.
2-13 10mg nolva ED
200mg Vitamin B6 throughout
500 iu HCG 2x wk mon/tues or E4D (either will work) for three wells ending 1wk before PCT starts.
PCT will start 18 days after last sust injection
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 3g Tribulus
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 3g Tribulus
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / 3g Tribulus
You will get more heat for sust on this board than others. It isnt a bad compound just less convenient. Go with E if you havent already bought the sust and E is available to you.