12-30-2004, 12:43 PM #1
First cycle idea, please critique like y'all always do
21 yrs old, training for 3 yrs, Hitting the weights hard with proper nutrition for 1 1/2. 6'2, about 190 lbs and 13% bf.
Also have a good source and multiple cycle whores.
Wk 1-10 Test E 250mg E4D
Wk 1-2 Dbol @ 30mg ED
Wk 3 Dbol @ 20mg ED
Wk 4 Dbol 10mg ED (inspired by the thread of that guy who did a Dbol only cycle for 4 weeks at those dosages)
Zinc @ 100mg ED(read at another forum that this works wonders, over at that forum they dont even take Anti e's just Zink)
Proviron @ 25mg ED
Nolva will be on hand
This is where I am still unsure. I of course wanna keep as much of my gains as possible, but am not quite sure how to do it. Do I take some Dbols for 2 weeks after my last test shot and before my first clomid dose? I also heard some stuff about Bridging with Clen since it is Anti-Catabolic. And how about taking Creatine in PCT?
thanks for all your help in advance guys, I been reading this forum for so long and have already learned quite a bit, but still have so far to go.
Last edited by JDogg; 12-30-2004 at 12:46 PM.
12-30-2004, 12:55 PM #2
Oh and since every male in my fam is bald I guess I should throw B5 in the mix as well?
12-30-2004, 01:01 PM #3Originally Posted by JDogg
Test @ 250? Not sure if this is enough
B5 for baldness? Finasteride or dutasteride would be better choice
PCT 300/100 30 day PCT IMHO
12-30-2004, 01:01 PM #4
DO NOT take dbol for 2weeks after ur cycle has finished b4 PCT
read pheednos PCT and follow it
take trib in PCT not in cycle, take 4g ED
also take creatine in PCT 5-10g ED depending on bodyweight
finally,do not taper dbol dosages as this will cause blood level fluctuations and may cause more sides, keep at 30mg for weeks 1 - 4
12-30-2004, 01:03 PM #5
test e 250mg 2xweek = 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks is perfect for u
12-30-2004, 01:06 PM #6Originally Posted by bigswiftos
12-30-2004, 01:11 PM #7
12-30-2004, 03:28 PM #8Anabolic Member
Originally Posted by bigswiftos
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Good luck, bro.
12-30-2004, 03:32 PM #9
looks ok, but yea b5 wont help ur hair:P
12-30-2004, 03:33 PM #10Originally Posted by bigswiftos
Who ever posted that has amazing knowledge...
In all seriousness, E3D is the best for test E bro
12-30-2004, 03:39 PM #11
12-30-2004, 03:51 PM #12VET Retired
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Hmmmmm It would seem it's best to take hcg , trib etc on cycle. Better to treat testicular atrophy before it happens. Zinc has anti-estrogen, pro testosterone properties but i would not replace it for A.Is.
I think the clen can be used during pct. Imo it's better to frontload your test or jump start with prop then to use d-bol, at least they add real muscle tissue. You're lean already so some winny or var at the end would add a nice "finish" to your gains.
12-31-2004, 02:10 AM #13
Yea I was gonna jump start with prop but dude said he doesnt have anymore, maybe even forever. If he does by chance get some more by feb 1st I will do 50 mg Prop EOD along with Test E once a week for the first for 4weeks, then quit prop and increase test E to the aforementioned E4D
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