sustenon 250 need advice?!!

**grabagear** · 03-20-2002, 09:02 PM

ok-I am about 185 with a 8.5% body fat. I have been working out for about 2 years and when I started I was at about 160 with a bd fat of about 11%. anyway I feel that I have reached my genetic potential and I am going to start a cycle of sus 250. I was planning on doing one shot of 250mgs per week for 3 months and then take 2 or 3 months off and finish with another 2 months of 250mgs a week. All I can get from the dude is sus 250 at least this year anyway. What do you guys think I will see for gains? if any. I train hard with a good diet(high protein low carbs) and I need to put on some quality mass as well as blast through my plateau!!!
Thanx in advance!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS My bench hasnt gone up in 5 months!!! all of my other excersises have but I cant seem to get that f***ing bench up!!!! will this sus make a dramatic increase in strenght as well as size???

**Iron horse** · 03-20-2002, 09:05 PM

if you can only get sust,

500mgs/week for 10 weeks

and you must also manage to get clomid and some anti-e;s

**Tex** · 03-20-2002, 09:23 PM

use 500mg/wk for 8-10 wks. 3 weeks after last sus shot take clomid 300mg/1st day, 100mg/10days, 50mg/10days. make sure and have at least 200gm/protein/day, and if you really want mass you need to up the carb intake to around 400gm/day. don't do the cycle without the clomid. This cycle allowed me to keep 14lbs of muscle after clomid therapy. JMO

**Animal Cracker** · 03-20-2002, 09:24 PM

If you are looking to SUS..hit atleast 500 a week for atleast 8 weeks. I am on a cycle of it now myself...I have seen some good gains in size and strength. I have also been in th egym religiously so that plays a large part in it of course. I am completely satisfied with my SUS results so far. Clomid is a must! My next cycle I will hit SUS but stack it with some DECA or EQ. HIND SIGHT!!!

**Dr.Evil** · 03-21-2002, 12:23 PM

you need more than just sust, at least some anti estrogens. 3 months is way too long. 10 weeks max, then at least 10 weeks off before doing it again.

**Mr. Fina** · 03-21-2002, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by grabagear
I train hard with a good diet(high protein low carbs) and I need to put on some quality mass as well as blast through my plateau!!!
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The low carb diet is the reason why your bench is not going up. You are probably in a catabolic state and your body is feeding off your muscle for energy. Change up your diet first before you decide to do gear.

High protein and low carbs is not a good diet!

**bigwillster** · 03-21-2002, 12:31 PM

Don't do sust for more than 10 weeks. You will definitely see gains from using 250mg/ week. Depending on your diet, I would say around 20 lbs. I would do 500mg/week for 8 or 10 weeks if I were you though. Like the guys say, make sure to have your Nolva and Clomid for your cycle. I did sust 250mg/ week for 8 weeks for my first cycle and lost it all cuz I didn't do my clomid therapy. My nuts looked like raisins.

**gust5** · 03-21-2002, 01:44 PM

try at least to get some deca also, to mix it with the sus , because the sustanon only hurts like hell a few days after the injection , a hint , dont shoot into the legg , use the shoulder , and yes , you will gain between 15 and 20 lbs ,