this b-12 if fu**ing miracle substance!!

**swest** · 01-05-2005, 07:51 AM

Been juicing only a couple of days...now just a halfhour after injection im hungry like never before, i eat like a **** fool, i only regrett not using this during my last cycle **** i would have gained...
what is it the b-12 does to your body to increase the appetite?

**justin2305** · 01-05-2005, 07:52 AM

ive been considering using b-12 but i dont no yet

**seanw** · 01-05-2005, 07:56 AM

I used the oral version for a couple of weeks and it did nothing, maybe I will try the injectable next cycle.

**swest** · 01-05-2005, 07:57 AM

why not? what have kept you from it? i have had problems with my appetite and b-12 is the perfect non steroid substance...i havent wantet to do eq...

**seanw** · 01-05-2005, 08:00 AM

well nothing really kept me from it except the extra jab in the arse which I like to try an avaoid, but I am determined to grow like a mofo in the next cycle so I will probably give it a try

***xxx*** · 01-05-2005, 08:02 AM

oral b12 doesnt work, if u want to give it a try, u will have to use the injectable version.
I tried it and felt nothing...

**hung-solo** · 01-05-2005, 08:15 AM

[QUOTE=swest]Been juicing only a couple of days...now just a halfhour after injection im hungry like never before, i eat like a **** fool, i only regrett not using this during my last cycle **** i would have gained...
what is it the b-12 does to your body to increase the appetite?[/QU

it didnt do shiit for me! but i am always hungry anyway

**swest** · 01-05-2005, 08:23 AM

[QUOTE=hung-solo]

Originally Posted by swest

Been juicing only a couple of days...now just a halfhour after injection im hungry like never before, i eat like a **** fool, i only regrett not using this during my last cycle **** i would have gained...
what is it the b-12 does to your body to increase the appetite?[/QU

it didnt do shiit for me! but i am always hungry anyway

And you did the injectable? it seems to work for some, others just waste there money, if it works though its worth the eight bucks...

but i repeat my initial question, does anybody know how the b-12 acctually works? in increasing appetite.

**seanw** · 01-05-2005, 08:30 AM

Here is some stuff on B12.

Overview:
Vitamin B-12, otherwise known as cyanocobalamin, performs as a coenzyme for the creation of DNA material. It also promotes growth and cell development and is important to fat, carbohydrate, and protein metabolism. Although vitamin B-12 is not found in plant foods, good sources of this supplement include meats, fish, eggs, and dairy products.
How This Vitamin Works in Your Body:
Growth and development of nerve, skin, hair, and blood cells
Produces genetic material
Metabolizes amino and fatty acids
Works to release food energy
Helps treat Alzheimer’s disease
May help sufferers of nervous disorders
Could improve immune system
May see increase in energy and memory

Maybe its the bit about helping to release food energy that makes you need more food ?

**Alexander the Graet** · 01-05-2005, 08:41 AM

B12 is needed to increase the red blood cells in your body! it is usually given to patients with pernicious anemia! a TYPE OF ANEMIA IN WHICH THE BODY IS NOT ABLE TO METABOLISE B12 BY ITSELF! WITH THE INCREASE OF RED BLOOD CELLS THE BODY WILL REQUEST MORE OXYXEN AND NUTRITION TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE RED BLOOD CELLS!

**swest** · 01-05-2005, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Alexander the Graet

B12 is needed to increase the red blood cells in your body! it is usually given to patients with pernicious anemia! a TYPE OF ANEMIA IN WHICH THE BODY IS NOT ABLE TO METABOLISE B12 BY ITSELF! WITH THE INCREASE OF RED BLOOD CELLS THE BODY WILL REQUEST MORE OXYXEN AND NUTRITION TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE RED BLOOD CELLS!

very intresting, thanks for the info...why do you hink it only works for some?

**ChefJ** · 01-05-2005, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Alexander the Graet

B12 is needed to increase the red blood cells in your body! it is usually given to patients with pernicious anemia! a TYPE OF ANEMIA IN WHICH THE BODY IS NOT ABLE TO METABOLISE B12 BY ITSELF! WITH THE INCREASE OF RED BLOOD CELLS THE BODY WILL REQUEST MORE OXYXEN AND NUTRITION TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE RED BLOOD CELLS!

All steroids rincrease the amount of red blood cells

**Hed** · 01-05-2005, 12:16 PM

Im about to do my 2nd shot today, in an hour or so, just gotta run out for alcohol. Hope to start feelin it soon!

**JMack** · 01-05-2005, 02:29 PM

Where can injectable b-12 be bought im assuming its not illegal?

**ChefJ** · 01-05-2005, 02:33 PM

look at some pharma websites for injectable b12 get the human grade stuff costs a little more but its worth it.

**skiing** · 01-05-2005, 02:36 PM

definitely gonna give it a try

**JMack** · 01-05-2005, 02:45 PM

what is the dosing and ED EOD or what

**VannillaGorrilla-BE** · 01-05-2005, 02:47 PM

are u talking about vitamin b-12?
and if so can u get it at gnc

**ManzNumero1** · 01-05-2005, 02:48 PM

you cant get inj. b-12 at gnc. Order it online .
recommended dose, 200mg ed

**ManzNumero1** · 01-05-2005, 02:51 PM

my fault read through that fast
b-12 usually (1000 mcg per day)
b-6 200mg ed

**Hed** · 01-05-2005, 02:54 PM

I do 1000mg EOD

Just did my shot like 45 minutes ago and ****, my friggin leg is a little sore right now. First one went without any pain at all. I still cant get over the weird feeling when the needle goes in. Did L quad today, two days ago i did R quad.

**JMack** · 01-05-2005, 03:09 PM

OK im not having any luck finding it, can some one give me a link! thanks

**Matrix78** · 01-05-2005, 07:16 PM

just got my B Complex today but can someone verify that .2ppm is 1000mcg? i wasnt having much luck finding the conversion

PS this shot hurt more than the prop but not too bad

**don anabolico** · 01-05-2005, 08:07 PM

i love it, i use it on cycle and on pct (like right now). you can inject im or sub Q, i prefer sub Q

**PurePower** · 01-05-2005, 08:19 PM

I love B-12 couldnt go a week without it

**mr_man** · 01-05-2005, 08:28 PM

I have read that people use b-12 to cut painfull test prop. How is that? Prop is oil and B-12 is water right? Oil and water don't go together so how do people mix the two?

**statuZ** · 01-05-2005, 09:15 PM

i used it for a week and after a week the effects went away, was it becuase i was only doing 1000mcg every other day?

**Slammer** · 01-05-2005, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by ManzNumero1

my fault read through that fast
b-12 usually (1000 mcg per day)
b-6 200mg ed

I think that is an oral bro.

**Hed** · 01-05-2005, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Slammer

I think that is an oral bro.

Haahahahahhha, u kno how many b12 vitamens youd have to take to get 1000mg?

Its injectible

**Zues** · 01-05-2005, 11:58 PM

Ther reason oral B-12 dosn't work nearly as good as injectable is because most of it gets broken down by you liver before it is even absorbed. For those of you who don't want to have to shhot ED, not to worry. You can use a tiny insulin pin and a sub-q shot is just as effective as IM. B-12 injectable can be bought legally in any Canadian pharmacy.

**big daddy k de** · 01-06-2005, 12:16 AM

hummm OK i got injectabl B-complex ...i take 1cc every other day is that enough

**Hed** · 01-06-2005, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by big daddy k de

hummm OK i got injectabl B-complex ...i take 1cc every other day is that enough

Thats what i do, 1cc EOD

**swest** · 01-06-2005, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Zues

Ther reason oral B-12 dosn't work nearly as good as injectable is because most of it gets broken down by you liver before it is even absorbed. For those of you who don't want to have to shhot ED, not to worry. You can use a tiny insulin pin and a sub-q shot is just as effective as IM. B-12 injectable can be bought legally in any Canadian pharmacy.

ok call me a newbie but what is this sub-q and IM, ?

**Deeno** · 01-06-2005, 05:12 PM

IM is 'intramuscular' ---'within' the muscle

Sub-Q is subcutaneous--'beneath' the skin (ie. into fat)

**swest** · 01-06-2005, 05:31 PM

oh really, so you can inject b-12 into fat?

**Slammer** · 01-09-2005, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Hedzilla

Haahahahahhha, u kno how many b12 vitamens youd have to take to get 1000mg?

Its injectible

ManzNumero 1 was talking about getting injectible B12 at GNC. GNC does not carry an injectible B12, they only carry capsules and an oral liquid which is cherry flavor, and no it is not an injectible product.

**AandF6969** · 01-09-2005, 10:17 PM

Whatever you do, don't buy vetrinary grade B12, even though its so fukkin cheap... get human grade. Take a look at this link.

http://www.musclesci.com/forum/showt...ighlight=human

**I R Baboon** · 01-09-2005, 10:18 PM

so where are some web sites that carry injectable b-12? I know i can click on the banner above but everytime i have checked it is out of stock. Anyone know of any other sites that carry this?

**Hed** · 01-10-2005, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by AandF6969

Whatever you do, don't buy vetrinary grade B12, even though its so fukkin cheap... get human grade. Take a look at this link.

http://www.musclesci.com/forum/showt...ighlight=human

That study was done in 1991 and relates only to aluminum intake causing dimentia............the aluminum lining on a tank isnt enough to cause anything. Thats almost the most pointless slim-chance happening thing ive ever heard, and then someone made a whole article out of it.

Ill stick with my vet grade.....

**ChefJ** · 01-10-2005, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Matrix78

just got my B Complex today but can someone verify that .2ppm is 1000mcg? i wasnt having much luck finding the conversion

PS this shot hurt more than the prop but not too bad

It's not the same if it is injectable b complex that **** hurts.