Better Results?

**BEAR101** · 01-05-2005, 11:26 PM

Test E at 750 a week with 25-30mg of dbol ed or tren 75 ed?

which one would i gain more weight on if u have done either tell me how it went?

**AG5678** · 01-05-2005, 11:32 PM

neither i would go with a sust,deca , and dbol cycle. dbol the first 4 weeks. run good PCT i can't stress that enough. also is this your first cycle we need more info age,weight, b/f etc

**Consistency** · 01-05-2005, 11:32 PM

of all drugs.... tren is the one you must have test with!

**AG5678** · 01-05-2005, 11:33 PM

also what are your goals?

**Consistency** · 01-05-2005, 11:34 PM

and 750mg of test is alot.... also this cycle depends on your goals

**BEAR101** · 01-05-2005, 11:37 PM

Im 5 10 200 6-8%bf 2nd cycle wanna get super strong and gain and keep at least 25 pounds... first cycle was test e at 500 a week and i gained 22 and kept 18

**AG5678** · 01-05-2005, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by BEAR101

Im 5 10 200 6-8%bf 2nd cycle wanna get super strong and gain and keep at least 25 pounds... first cycle was test e at 500 a week and i gained 22 and kept 18

I don't know about 25 maybe 20lbs i would go with the Deca , DBol , and Sus cycle just my 2

**Consistency** · 01-05-2005, 11:41 PM

super strong? then you need tren .. try somethin like this

week 1-12 test E 500mg
wk 1-10 tren e 400mg
* and kickstart with dbol or prop

**BEAR101** · 01-05-2005, 11:43 PM

If i go with tren 75 ed would i still need the dbol to kick start and i already ahve the test e and im gonna go 375(twice a week) for 12 weeks

**Consistency** · 01-05-2005, 11:47 PM

yes the tren will kick in within 7-10 days, but the test wont kick in till 3-5 weeks, so if i was doing it I would kickstart with prop at 50mg for 4 weeks, that way when the tren kicks in so will the test

**BEAR101** · 01-05-2005, 11:52 PM

Test prop eh? bettre choice than dbol ?.... if i did dbol would i have to go for 4 weeks or could i do it for 2 weeks... and do i have to kick start it with anything... the gains would be greater i assume if i do... i heard of front loading what exactly is that?

**Consistency** · 01-06-2005, 12:02 AM

ill say my last 2 cents and then let other people give their opinions.

you dont have to kickstart it will anything. in this situation prop would be better kickstart and 2 weeks of dbol would almost be a waste.

frontloading is- in your case your running 750mg of test, some believe if you double that for your first 1-3 weeks it will kick in earlier. so for you you would run 1500mg of test for 1-3 weeks. All i think it does is pur your hormones on a rollercoaster causing more sides.

**BEAR101** · 01-06-2005, 12:16 AM

k thank you

**MER** · 01-06-2005, 12:28 AM

This is your second cycle and you wanna mess with tren ? You don't have enough experience in my book bro I suggest you stick with Test/Deca /Dbol cycle. You've done one cycle of test 500mg a week. I really don't think your ready for tren, that **** can be very harsh.

**BEAR101** · 01-06-2005, 12:31 AM

Thank you ill keep that in mind before purchasing nething else(tren )

**AG5678** · 01-06-2005, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by MER

This is your second cycle and you wanna mess with tren? You don't have enough experience in my book bro I suggest you stick with Test/Deca/Dbol cycle. You've done one cycle of test 500mg a week. I really don't think your ready for tren, that **** can be very harsh.

Thats what i tried to say....It's hard to change people's mind when they already know what they want