Opinions on cycle

**MonsterRugby** · 01-06-2005, 11:27 PM

How should I tweak this?

Sustanon wk 1-10 @ 250mg once a week
Equipoise wk 2-8 @ 400mg once a week
Anavar wk 6-10 @ 25mg ED

Clomid and Nolvadex pct as well...
I also have a bottle of QV Deca 300... is there any benefit of switching equipoise with the deca... Im "hoping" the equipoise will give me less water retention. Your guys thoughts?

**MonsterRugby** · 01-06-2005, 11:30 PM

ugh.... I meant equipoise 200mg a week.. not 400 (typo)

**Consistency** · 01-06-2005, 11:35 PM

sust needs to be shot EOD to keep blood levels stable and get the maximun effectiveness

EQ needs to be run 12 weeks minimum and it is a weak anabolic so at 200mg a week you might not see any results at all

var needs to be run for 6-8 weeks at 40-60mg ED

Yes Eq will give you less bloat then deca , personally i like EQ bett then deca (makes you look leaner0

**MonsterRugby** · 01-06-2005, 11:38 PM

If I were to shoot Sust twice a week but keeping it @ 250mg per week
and jumping the EQ to 400mg a week
I was thinking the var for a short time because I've heard it helps the body recover a bit and being natural levels back, I've heard its good to taper back...

**Consistency** · 01-06-2005, 11:42 PM

Yes you can up the EQ to 400mg a week and keep the sust at 250. Many people on this board will disagree with this, but the only side effect of this could lead to "deca dick" in this case EQ dick, but this probably wont happen since it is relatively weak. Also dont taper anything. and i forgot to say, run the var 3 weeks past the sust and Eq then start pct 1 day after last anavar is taken. also var wont help bring back natural test levels, it will only shut them down more.

**MonsterRugby** · 01-06-2005, 11:47 PM

Ahh thanks. As far as PCT goes when should I start the clomid and nolvadex ? and at what dosage? Would you be willing to help me out with the pct structure for my cycle? Thanks much!

**Consistency** · 01-06-2005, 11:51 PM

wk 1-12 Sust 250mg
wk 1-12 EQ 400mg
wk 8-15 Var 40mg ED
wk 1-15 Nolva 10mg ED

PCT begins 1 day after var (3 weeks after sust/eq)
day 1- 300mg clomid 20mg nolva
day 2-10 100mg clomid ED 20mg nolva ED
day 11-21 50mg clomid ED 20mg nolva ED

*bump for other opinions

**MonsterRugby** · 01-06-2005, 11:55 PM

thanks much.

**AVAGO** · 01-07-2005, 05:16 AM

[/QUOTE]wk 1-12 Sust 250mg
wk 1-12 EQ 400mg
wk 8-15 Var 40mg ED
wk 1-15 Nolva 10mg ED

PCT begins 1 day after var (3 weeks after sust/eq)
day 1- 300mg clomid 20mg nolva
day 2-10 100mg clomid ED 20mg nolva ED
day 11-21 50mg clomid ED 20mg nolva ED

*bump for other opinions[QUOTE]

Yeah man sounds good start the pct 18 days after last sust jab, just id run my test at higher levels than the eq.....

**isit cause i is big!** · 01-07-2005, 05:38 AM

what are your expectations for this cycle!

**Stout1** · 01-07-2005, 10:08 AM

If you do sustanon 2X a week you are losing out on some of your gear. LIke what was stated before sust needs to be shot ED or EOD. Do yourself a favor and go get some Test E or some CYP. Much better. All Sust is a fancy looking test. It just has alot of esters. With the mulitple esters comes multiple injectioins. So unlesss you want to poke yourself ED or EOD go get something else cuz you are wasting gear if you dont.

**Stout1** · 01-07-2005, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Consistency

wk 1-12 Sust 250mg
wk 1-12 EQ 400mg
wk 8-15 Var 40mg ED
wk 1-15 Nolva 10mg ED

PCT begins 1 day after var (3 weeks after sust/eq)
day 1- 300mg clomid 20mg nolva
day 2-10 100mg clomid ED 20mg nolva ED
day 11-21 50mg clomid ED 20mg nolva ED

*bump for other opinions

I would drop the Sust and pick up some Test E or some CYP. Sust is more expsensive and if you are to shoot it only 2X a week you are wasting some of the gear cuz it has some fast acting esters.

Also only take the Nolva if signs of gyno show up. No need to take 10mgED unless need be cuz it does hinder gains somewhat. Especially at such a low dose of test you will be fine.

**IronRuffy** · 01-07-2005, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Stout1

I would drop the Sust and pick up some Test E or some CYP. Sust is more expsensive and if you are to shoot it only 2X a week you are wasting some of the gear cuz it has some fast acting esters.

Also only take the Nolva if signs of gyno show up. No need to take 10mgED unless need be cuz it does hinder gains somewhat. Especially at such a low dose of test you will be fine.

Nothing wrong with the sust but to take advantage of the four diff esters you should front load it with prop for a couple weeks until the esters can start taking their effect. After the first couple weeks the levels can carry themselves. I would also agree with stout to avoid the nolva until needed...