TEST-CYP.vs ENAN.

**cardocbyday** · 01-07-2005, 08:05 PM

I have ran three cycles in the last two years. The first two of those I used test cypionate (400mg per/wk) and had good results. For the last one I ran I thought I would try enanthate instead(400 mg per/wk). All cycles included Deca , last also included hgh. I can give specifics of cycles if needed. First two cycles went 8-10 weeks. Four weeks into last cycle not noticing any changes as far as strength(first two cycles strength already noticeable). At this point I upped the dosage to 600mg per/wk(3shots per/wk). 8 weeks in now still no strength change, but acne and agression levels up. Upped dosage again, this time to 900mg per/wk(3 shots per/wk). 12 weeks up and no real noticable strength gains as with alot lower dosages of cypionate. Contacted and asked supplier about difference. He said that not all people respond well to enanthate. Has anyone else noticed better gains off one more than another?

Any and all feedback welcome, thanks

***BajanBastard*** · 01-07-2005, 08:10 PM

Your supplier does not know what he is talking about. Enan and cyp esters are only 1 carbon atom different. In other words they might as well be the same thing.

**TheMudMan** · 01-07-2005, 08:15 PM

The enan could be underdosed.............. if anything mg per mg Enan is stronger but there really is no difference............ I have ran both and simillar gains. I did bloat less on Enan.

**MER** · 01-07-2005, 08:18 PM

I don't know why but I don't seem to break out on E. The main reason I prefer it

**AandF6969** · 01-07-2005, 08:23 PM

how many hundreds of threads are there on this topic?

**LuvMuhRoids** · 01-07-2005, 08:25 PM

Both are vitually the same but cyp has just a little longer ester by a few days. The carbon structure is almost identical. My guess is you are not responding to enanth like cyp or the drug you are using is underdosed.

**cardocbyday** · 01-07-2005, 08:44 PM

As far as my supplier goes I saw good results with first cycle but questionable with third. I have asked about the lab's creditability before but with no response.

***BajanBastard*** · 01-07-2005, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids

Both are vitually the same but cyp has just a little longer ester by a few days. The carbon structure is almost identical. My guess is you are not responding to enanth like cyp or the drug you are using is underdosed.

Cyp is longer by 1.5 days.

**LuvMuhRoids** · 01-07-2005, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Cyp in longer by 1.5 days.

To add, the wait period on Cyp to begin clomid therapy is suggested 4 days longer than enanthate up to 18 days as opposed to 14 days for androgen levels to decrease enough to not hinder clomids selective actions.

**needle** · 01-07-2005, 09:21 PM

I have ran both, I like E better, But there both the same, I guess I respond better for some reason!

**inevitable** · 01-07-2005, 09:29 PM

dunno i only used Test E

**AG5678** · 01-07-2005, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by AandF6969

how many hundreds of threads are there on this topic?

tell me about it

**Anhydro78** · 01-07-2005, 10:15 PM

I have changed from Cypoinate to Enanthate in the middle of a cycle before and didnt notice a thing.

**ace ventura** · 01-07-2005, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

tell me about it

On the positive side newbies like myself can read and learn without searching. I found this subject interesting even though it wouldn't have crossed my mind to do a search on it right now.