Thread: Cycling without PCT
01-08-2005, 03:39 AM #1
Cycling without PCT
Without everyone jumping on me, I am looking for constructive views, both for and against, cycling without proper PCT. I know most of the againsts, but I read some threads where people had good gains and kept it without pct on low dose but longer cycles.
I wouldn't even venture here, except for the fact I simply cannot get Clomid or HCG . Just can't get it. Too tight here in Australia.
If one was to do a low-moderate dose course of Sustanon 250 or Test E, for an extended period of time (say at least 16 weeks), and use stacks of tribulus at the end, would this be feasible? This would be my first cycle.
Or should I just not consider it. I doubt I will ever, ever, be able to get my hands on clomid or HCG. And no I cannot order it through here, too risky.
Constructive critiscisms/answers only please.
01-08-2005, 07:26 AM #2
not sure tbh but i would prefer tp do pct,all that hard work to lose your gains would hit depressing especially while off gear.why is it hard to get gear into austrailia?
01-08-2005, 07:31 AM #3Originally Posted by irish bulldog
01-08-2005, 07:39 AM #4
can you at least get nolva ?
a nolva / trib/longjack pct would work but it would take a little longer then the standard 3 weeks probably more close to 5 or 6.
01-08-2005, 09:10 AM #5Writer
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Badham cycles w/o PCT. I think it works for him...
01-08-2005, 09:15 AM #6
You can get sust and test e, but not clomid? Try to find a local doctor that can help you or something.
01-08-2005, 10:24 AM #7Originally Posted by tubbytank
01-08-2005, 10:26 AM #8Originally Posted by maxex
ALWAYS DO PCT!
01-08-2005, 10:30 AM #9Originally Posted by getinbig
01-08-2005, 10:33 AM #10
What ever floats their boats..
I hope you are smart enough to do Clomid... I am sure you are if your reading up on this board.
01-08-2005, 10:35 AM #11Originally Posted by getinbig
Ive always done pct, but reading up on this board helped do the "proper' pct
01-08-2005, 10:52 AM #12
01-08-2005, 01:25 PM #13Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
01-08-2005, 02:10 PM #14Originally Posted by Stout1
01-08-2005, 02:20 PM #15Anabolic Member
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If you don't use PCT, you'll probably lose a lot of weight between cycles. Having said that let me say this...
There are a lot of big guys in the gym who have had no access to message boards like this, who have never heard of PCT, and who don't use PCT. The best thing for you to do is experiment. Try a cycle without PCT and see if it works for you. To hold on to the maximum amount of weight after a cycle, remember that you have to continue to eat and work out well between cycles--especially if you're not using PCT.
If you're one of the lucky ones that bounces back quickly after a cycle, then you might not have to worry about PCT as much as others. How fast you recover your natural hormone levels will depend on your body chemistry, the steroids you use, the length of your cycle and how well you treat your body post cycle.
Best of luck.
01-08-2005, 02:21 PM #16
Some people just dont need pct but i wouldnt chance it i know about 10 guys from my old gym who didnt do pct and they were all fine but i have known a few who havnt and have gone limp for a few weeks so once again i wouldnt chance it get some tongkat ali, or some trib at least
01-09-2005, 03:22 AM #17Associate Member
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