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    Equipoise + Winstrol, but no Test. yay/nay?

    Assumed more for athletic reasons than bodybuilding... Is using EQ w/o test advisable? Seems just about everyone suggest stacking everything with Test.

    Starting my first cycle of Test E once it arrives, just wanting to plan out the second. thanks

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    yes. eq should definately be run with test. eq will shut down natural production.
    no test = no good

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    Ney, get some test

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    Doesnt using Test shut down 'natural' production?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbrew
    Doesnt using Test shut down 'natural' production?
    yes but it also replaces it. then pct helps bring ya back

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    Quote Originally Posted by dive_kid
    yes but it also replaces it. then pct helps bring ya back
    I see

    Are profiles that dont state anything about stacking with Test considered to be flawed? For example: http://www.steroid.com/60.php

    all it mentions is stacking with Winstrol . Or is it a matter of the writer assuming one will be stacking with Test?

    thanks
    Last edited by newbrew; 01-11-2005 at 10:43 PM.

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    well theres a novice cycle thats all planned out for just winni and eq...
    personally id go for eq and dbol over winny

    but i can recall some vets/mods somewhere around here saying that Eq only cycles are generally alright

    i guess if youre worried about shutting down test production, and getting "deca dick" from eq since your not producing test... consider how old you are. the younger you are the more test you produce and the easier it is to come off a cycle. i imagine the best age to be around 25, since i beleive thats when men produce the most amount of test in their lives

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    I personally feel that all cycles should have a test base of atleast 250mg a week.

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    yea, thanks. i found that cycle:

    Week Supplement /MG /Week Supplement /MG Supplement/ MG Supplement/ MG
    1 Equipoise /500 mg Nolvadex /10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    2 Equipoise /500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    3 Equipoise /500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    4 Equipoise /500 mg Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    5 Equipoise /500 mg Winstrol 50 mg/Day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    6 Equipoise /500 mg Winstrol 50 mg/Day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    7 Equipoise /500 mg Winstrol 50 mg/Day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    8 Equipoise /500 mg Winstrol 50 mg/Day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    9 Equipoise /500 mg Winstrol 50 mg/Day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    10 Equipoise /500 mg Winstrol 50 mg/Day Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    11 Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    12 Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    13 Clomid Therapy Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    14 Clomid Therapy Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day
    15 Clomid Therapy Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

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    whats funny is that everyone on here ive talked to about EQ has said it has to be run ATLEAST 12 weeks.... but on that novice cycle is suggests only 10. hmmmm.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbrew
    I see

    Are profiles that dont state anything about stacking with Test considered to be flawed? For example: http://www.steroid.com/60.php

    all it mentions is stacking with Winstrol . Or is it a matter of the writer assuming one will be stacking with Test?

    thanks
    those profiles are old. research has come a long way

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    hey I have a question. why do new steroid users protest about using test so much.
    it is prooven to be the best. I'm sure all the bros here agree. so if it is proven to work, then why not use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dive_kid
    hey I have a question. why do new steroid users protest about using test so much.
    it is prooven to be the best. I'm sure all the bros here agree. so if it is proven to work, then why not use it?
    I am not protesting, as you will notice my first cycle is a Test E only cycle. Just doing some research.

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    ok cool

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