01-12-2005, 06:41 PM #1
Bulking w/ Prop? Why do people say not to?
I know most of you say to use Cyp or E for bulking, but I want to know the reasoning behind this. If test is test, and you get more bang from the Prop, why wouldn't you use it if you didn't mind shooting ED? I'm going to be running a bulker in about June, I was just curious about this.. my cycle will be as follows.
1-4 Dbol @ 40mg/ed
1-12 Prop @ 150mg/ed
8-12 Winny @ 50mg/ed
1-12 Nolva @ 15mg/ed
1-12 Femara @ 1.25mg/eod
01-12-2005, 06:58 PM #2
My belief is that most people don't use prop for a bulking cycle because they usually use some deca or EQ with it and want to avoid the ED shots by only shooting twice a week. Also, I and a lot of other bros tend to hold less water on prop, but if you are bulking then you probably not going to be worried about a little water retention anyway. I gain more weight and strength off enan, but I gain more quality muscle with less water while on prop. If you don't mine the ED shots then go for the prop and more power to you. Good luck bro.
01-12-2005, 06:59 PM #3Originally Posted by dieseL atC
01-12-2005, 07:03 PM #4Originally Posted by dieseL atC
Good lookin cyclethere bro. Can't argue with the prop, good stuff!
01-12-2005, 07:20 PM #5Originally Posted by TheMudMan
01-12-2005, 07:24 PM #6Originally Posted by scotttiger54
01-12-2005, 07:29 PM #7Originally Posted by 1-cent
01-12-2005, 07:37 PM #8Originally Posted by 1-Cent
01-12-2005, 07:37 PM #9Originally Posted by GetPumped
01-12-2005, 07:39 PM #10VET Retired
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You can use any combo to "bulk" or "cut" IMO. I think it's foolish to count "bulk" cycle mass which is mostly water as gains. So if you add 20lbs with 5 lbs water on test e + d-bol or 15lbs all muscle on prop and winny. What is the difference?
01-12-2005, 07:50 PM #11
I'm using the Winny just to harden me up that's all.. I don't like the soft feeling...
01-13-2005, 01:19 AM #12
it doesn t really depend on the steroid u r using, if u wanna bulk or cut. it s even possible to cut with d-bol. it all depends on your diet. some steroids have better effects for cutting like a high degree of androgen. the main goal for steroids while cutting is to protect your muscles. u could do that with test enathate as well. ppl don t use it so much, because it tends to build up and cause water bloating and some other estrogen related probs. with some arimidex u could fix that problem easy and make it more confi with only 2 shots a week not eod or ed.
same for prop in a bulking cycle: of course u can use it but 12 weeks of stabbing ed or eod would piss me off so why should u. and it s more expensive. but still u can use it.
btw I wouldnt use two 17 aa steroids in one cycle. if u don t like the soft feeling, use some arimidex. u don t need winstrol for that.
01-13-2005, 06:25 PM #13Associate Member
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Yeah Diet , you can bulk or cut up on Prop depending on your intake of food and the way you train
01-13-2005, 09:23 PM #14
I did 150mg of Prop EOD with Anadrol 50 ED , 5iu HGH ED and it gave me great gains..As long as you mix androgens and anabolics...you'll always get good gains even for a mass cycle..food plays a major role so make sure you scarf as much protein as you can..
01-14-2005, 04:15 PM #15
I bulk with prop - I'm happy with smaller, but leaner, more permanent gains - I also run var with it. (although I'm trying some tbol instead at the mo)
It's all down to your diet & training & rest.
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