pain killers and sauce

**ManzNumero1** · 01-13-2005, 02:34 PM

If taking pain killers temporarily, can they effect muscle growth at all ? j.w. cause i been taking vicotins every day for about 2 weeks, almost done, another few days. I was just wondering . thanks

**Jack87** · 01-13-2005, 05:18 PM

For only 2 weeks you shouldn't have problems... I still wouldn't
drink while on them because they are already harsh on your liver
and if you are already taking any oral 17AA steroids like winstrol
or d-bol you want to be careful... The main problem is if you ever
need to take them for an extended amount of time... If you ever
have to take them for months at a time you should have your liver
values checked every 3 months to be safe... Same goes for Percs...

**guns626** · 01-13-2005, 06:00 PM

Buff your info was right but probably not the reason you think. In all the combination narcotic analgesics, it's not the hydrocodone or oxycodone that's hard on the liver. It's the acetaminophen(Tylenol). Believe or not but this OTC medication is harder on the liver than the actual narcotic. So, yes, over an extended time you should have your liver values checked. Very much so if you are on gear at the same time. Hope this helps. Good Luck

**Jack87** · 01-13-2005, 07:58 PM

Yeah i know it's the acetaminophen and Vics have more then Percs
so they are worse for you long term... I have a family member that
is on Pain Meds for life, either that or he needs to have a back op
where they fuse 2 of his verbrate, so I know a thing or two about it...

Originally Posted by guns626

Buff your info was right but probably not the reason you think. In all the combination narcotic analgesics, it's not the hydrocodone or oxycodone that's hard on the liver. It's the acetaminophen(Tylenol). Believe or not but this OTC medication is harder on the liver than the actual narcotic. So, yes, over an extended time you should have your liver values checked. Very much so if you are on gear at the same time. Hope this helps. Good Luck

**james21** · 01-13-2005, 09:15 PM

thats why you should always ask for Vicoprofen if you need a painkiller. 7.5mg hydrocodone and 200mg ibuprofen.

**guns626** · 01-13-2005, 09:29 PM

Sorry Buff I did not mean to sound like I was puuting you down. I was only trying to help. I am a paramedic going to medical school so I know a few things about medicine. I did not mean to come of wrong. Peace

**1-Cent** · 01-13-2005, 11:40 PM

Oxycontin would be a better choice, varying strengths of oxycodone only with no added ingredients, although you pretty much have to sign away your soul to get them from a pharmacist and get added to a national database of those using it...
Works great as long as you use it responsibly, it will kill you if you abuse it.

**Leroy Brown** · 01-13-2005, 11:52 PM

Try not to if you're a strength athlete because they **** with your cns. Then again, all the strength athletes I know use them so go figure.

**Jack87** · 01-14-2005, 10:14 AM

No not at all bro, we're cool... I just didn't post up everything I knew
about it, I know what causes the liver damage... My Nephew is dealing
with this now and has to have his liver values checked every 3 months
because he's on pain meds basically for life to deal with his back problem...

Originally Posted by guns626

Sorry Buff I did not mean to sound like I was puuting you down. I was only trying to help. I am a paramedic going to medical school so I know a few things about medicine. I did not mean to come of wrong. Peace

**Jack87** · 01-14-2005, 10:16 AM

You sure they add you to a national database?
That's the first time I heard of that... If so it doesn't surprise me...
Is that only in Canada, just asking because you have that as your
location...

Originally Posted by 1-Cent

Oxycontin would be a better choice, varying strengths of oxycodone only with no added ingredients, although you pretty much have
to sign away your soul to get them from a pharmacist and get added to a national database of those using it... Works great as long as you use it responsibly, it will kill you if you abuse it.