Andriol...

**bombguy** · 01-16-2005, 12:04 PM

I was going thru the chart and it seems to me as a pretty good all around product...high efficacy, low side effects, and good gain retention. Anyone have first hand experience?

**Dude-Man** · 01-16-2005, 12:06 PM

nope. it's really not as good as the chart would indicate. that's why it's hard to find. you need to take around 10X the typical dose because it isn't absorbed well by the body. so if you wanted to be on 500 mg a week.. you'd need to be taking about 5 grams a week of andriol ... you see how it's not very cost effective.

**bombguy** · 01-16-2005, 12:07 PM

Ah. Thats what I thought. What would be a good cycle to go with that has low detection times?

**Dude-Man** · 01-16-2005, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by bombguy

Ah. Thats what I thought. What would be a good cycle to go with that has low detection times?

low detection times you're basically limited to testosterone suspension , (that is, esterless testosterone ) insulin , and growth hormone . Since both the NCAA and professional teams test for anti estrogens as well as steroids , you have to take certain risks while taking testosterone.

***BajanBastard*** · 01-16-2005, 12:13 PM

Avoid testosterone undecanoate unless it is in injectable form.

**Dude-Man** · 01-16-2005, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Avoid testosterone undecanoate unless it is in injectable form.

and then avoid in injectable form if you're being tested.

**bombguy** · 01-16-2005, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Avoid testosterone undecanoate unless it is in injectable form.

Why?

I'm just trying to learn more...so excuse the questions. I can see I'm gonna have to do a lot of research to find the right **** for me...I definetly don't want to **** this up.

**toolman** · 01-16-2005, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by bombguy

Why?

I'm just trying to learn more...so excuse the questions. I can see I'm gonna have to do a lot of research to find the right **** for me...I definetly don't want to **** this up.

You will not find any test alternative that is as effective as injectable test. My guess is that you would like to start with an oral, but trust me, injections are easy once you do it the first time. After that, you look forward to it and miss them when off cycle. Sounds crazy but it's true.

Test E, 500 mgs, there is no better first cycle.