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Hi guys, i needed some help on what type of substance i should use for a first-timer.
First of all i have 20 viles each of sus 250 and deca-durabolin from india which are totally legit.
My goals are to have a lean body, not amazingly huge, more like a models type body. I am 24 years old and have been lifting for 5 years following a very clean diet.
I need your help/input on which one of these substances i should use and how to use them, thank you for all of your help.
500mg sust for 10 weeks is a start.
i would go with the sustanon try doing it on a wednesday. one time a week for 10 weeks every wednesday. after the second week try it with some d-bol 10 to 15 mg of d-bol every day but not on non training days for the rest of your 10 week cycle.
wow r u seriousQuote:
Originally Posted by bigaj23
ok dont listen to this guy
your better off with a single ester test
i would go with a test e cycle @ 400mg per week broken down into 2 shots of 200mg every week for 12 weeks also take an anti e during cycle and for pct as well as clomid for pct
agreed, shoot it twice a week. Make sure you have the necessary anti e's b4 you start tooQuote:
Originally Posted by big k.l.g
dats a good cycle. how much d- bol should b taken everyday is 10mg okay or should it b higher
u guys have to stop giving advice u dont even know what u are talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by longhorn814
sust should be shot eod at the minimum it has short esters in it as well as long esters
this is ur first cycle u dont need dbolQuote:
Originally Posted by bigaj23
stick with test enanthate @ 400mg for 12 weeks u will be happy with it if ur diet and training are in check
u have not mentioned anti e's or pct u sure your ready for a cycle
but u say have the gear already bro u should research first get gear second
1-12 400mg sust eod
save the deca for next time u will gain alot off sust especially since ur a virgen to this
Sust was designed to last for up the 4 wks. It does not "need" to be shot ed/eod. He does not have a single ester test so he'll have to use the sust.
how much d-bol should b taken everyday. is 10mg enough or should i go higher to 15mg. one of u smart guys answer.
okay internet tough guy :wg:Quote:
Originally Posted by big k.l.g
if your a first timer you don't need a lot of anything to get good results.
depending on your weight even a 250mg shot of sust once a week for ten weeks could yeild a hard gain of 10-15 pounds. well those were my results anyways.
I think you could get amazing results simply by taking 200mg of deca once a week and 250mg of sust every 3 to 4 days. juiceinthehood seems to favour single esters like test enth, or cyp but there have been discussions up before about whether a single ester or a combined (sust) is better on your first time around.
hahah! I like internet badass. :wg:Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
can somebody answer me.
big start a new topic and don't take d-bol your first time aorund
lmao :D big what about the prop in the sus i mean theoretically u can shoot sus once a month but in our case (bodybuilding) thats not wiseQuote:
Originally Posted by big k.l.g
Next time don't hijack other peoples threads :) Start your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigaj23
Stats. Cycle histroy. Goals from cycle. Then the cycle you're planning to run.
no its not my first time i just need the advice. 10mg of d-bol or 15mg everyday.
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
Ah the never ending debate about how often to shoot sust!!!!
Don't get me wrong. Sust seems to be best at ed/eod injects. I said you don't "need" to. Feel me?Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
People are always counting the prop. What about the phenprop and others?
wow, thanks for ur guys advice, im leaning towards just using sus weeks 1-12 400mg eod (juiceinthehoods recomendation)
i have the gear b'cse i went on a trip to india so i thought i would pick it up, thats why i dont have any anti e's, this leads to the question of anti e's, what would you guys recomend for the cucle i listed above, thanks once again
First cycle. D-bol only huh? Not a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigaj23
Research: testosterone
boldenone/EQ
nandrolone/deca
oxandrolone/anavar
stanozolol/winny <---yeah you can drink it. :D
methandrostenolone/d-bol.
letrozole, anastrozole, tomoxifen, clomiphine.
Read up!
no its not my first time can u just answer 10mg of d-bol or 15 a DAY
With what?
start ur own thread bigaj23, matbe u will get ur question answered there!!
at a loss for words really.... :D
maybe i am just an idiot but did your sust 250 come in 1ml amps?
if so maybe it would be easier to shoot 250mg eod or 500mg eod... 500 seems like a lot for first time.
to answer your question bigaj.... take 3mg a day you have to divide the pill into 5ths with an exacto blade but that will work best for you.
yeah it came in 1ml amps so shooting is 2wice a week will be a total of 500mg's (2 1ml amps) is this too much??? there are a lot of mixed views on this...
my thoughts would be shooting 1 amp twice a week would be enough for you or if you wanna do it eod just 1 amp is sufficient.
lol Was that a joke Chocolate? 3mg d-bol?
dont use either or, shoot both, 400mg of each was my 2nd and favourite cycle, ran it 4 10 weeks, great gains, minimal sides, then 4 my third cycle i added dbol 4 the first 6 weeks and halotestin 4 the last 4 weeks.
big yes br0 i was being extremely sarcastic man did you like that? baam!
i liked the exacto knife part myself...
250mg dbol ed for 18 weeks
no thistle needed
might as well make it 400mg juice
250mg seems a little light.
we will make a pill popper outta him yet.
lmao lets make it 500mg ed for 20 weeks :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate