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    marlin444 is offline Associate Member
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    bulker cycle- surgestions wanted

    im about to start a winter bulker, and im tossing around a few ideas.

    first one:

    8 weeks of test prop 50mg ed,/tren 32.5mged (350/262)

    Second one:

    12 weeks of primo at 400 week
    12 weeks of test E at 250mg a week

    Third one:

    weeks 1-12 Test E @ 400 mg/ml
    weeks 1-10 tren E @ 300 mg/ml


    what im looking for is some quality easy to keep gains. i want the least amount of facial bloat, and hairloss is a concern, so im debating throwing away the primo idea, because it is a dht derivative. Deca is out the door because it shut me down really badly last time i took it.

    im going to thow some orals into the mix, but im not sure what. probibly just 4 week jumpstart of oral turonabol (spelling?), or dbol , anavar , etc....

    **Money isnt a concern**

    Im also running 4ius of GH throughout, and will be running 3 until i start in a month or 2.

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    I like the 3rd. You can run the O.T for 6-8 weeks.
    Some letro will be a nice 1mg e3d.
    Primo is crap IMO.

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    For pure bulk, I'd go with #3 as well.

    #1 is attractive since you are running GH alongside it, however whenever I am trying to put on mass, I want the cycle to be as long as possible.

    Conversely, whenever I am looking to cut, I want it to be as short as possible so I can go back to eating and minimizing time on the treadmill. That is where #1 would be handy: preserve lean mass and strength while dieting.

    You will be much happier with #3...Since money isn't an issue, go with var over dbol any day of the week...Var is highly effective for that purpose, and I recommend that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daem
    For pure bulk, I'd go with #3 as well.

    #1 is attractive since you are running GH alongside it, however whenever I am trying to put on mass, I want the cycle to be as long as possible.

    Conversely, whenever I am looking to cut, I want it to be as short as possible so I can go back to eating and minimizing time on the treadmill. That is where #1 would be handy: preserve lean mass and strength while dieting.

    You will be much happier with #3...Since money isn't an issue, go with var over dbol any day of the week...Var is highly effective for that purpose, and I recommend that as well.
    interesting... im just a little worried with the Tren e, because ive never done tren before. i already have a hairloss problem, due to accutane and possibly juice. im very scared to start going bald. i feel like shorter esters would be better cuase i could just stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marlin444
    interesting... im just a little worried with the Tren e, because ive never done tren before. i already have a hairloss problem, due to accutane and possibly juice. im very scared to start going bald. i feel like shorter esters would be better cuase i could just stop.
    PS you really think Var would be better for bulking?

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    Var will add REAL lean muscle tissue. D-bol just adds some kind of phosphorus rich substance to the muscles which does away when the drug is discontinued

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    Hey folks, don't mean to 'butt in' on this thread, but I have a similiar question to the one asked by Marlin444........for my next cycle I want to put on as much bulk as possible but I'd rather stick to injectables, if possible, and I just wonder if any of you have any suggestions???? I also want to avoid any excessive water retention, possibility of bitch tits, acne etc (a tall order I know)..............all things considered, I just wondered what the best course of action would be?? All suggestions welcome, cheers.

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    HIJACK!!!!!!!!

    300deca/500 test 10/12 weeks respectivly. any more info needed start your own thread.

    nice first post by the way.

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    I'd do #3 but bump the doses up, thats pretty low

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