Thread: 1st Cycle
01-18-2005, 07:16 PM #1
Ok guys, I am finally getting ready to do my first cycle soon. But I am still alittle unsure about what to run. I was thinking about doing this:
1-10 Test E 500mg/week
1-10 Deca 400mg/week
But then I started thinking about all the water I would hold. I dont wanna look super bloated. Would Test Prop help solve that?? But with Test Prop ED shots would be too much for a 1st timer correct? I guess I am looking for advice and I know all about the PCT, definitely doing all that stuff.
Thanks alot guys and gals.
01-18-2005, 07:27 PM #2Associate Member
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01-18-2005, 07:29 PM #3
nolva will help bloat
01-18-2005, 07:34 PM #4
One thing I am confused about is when people say nolva helps bloat, does that mean I wont gain as much weight because I am not holding as much water??
I was thinking of doing EQ instead of deca actually but shouldnt I run my test 1 week past the EQ? Like do EQ for 12 weeks and Test E for 13?
01-18-2005, 07:38 PM #5
01-19-2005, 10:35 AM #6
That's right, you won't gain as much water weight, althought the muscle gains should be about the same (with or without the bloat). In other words, once you come off cycle you will lose all the extra water that you were holding, and your muscle gains will be bout the same.
If you're concerned about bloat I'd also suggest you look into liquidex. I used it in my last cycle and it completely got rid of any bloating.
01-19-2005, 02:22 PM #7Member
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It's the estrogen that makes you hold water. With nolva there is less estrogen.
01-19-2005, 10:16 PM #8
Thanks for the responses fellas. I will probably go with test E and EQ with some nolva throughout the cycle.
01-20-2005, 12:26 AM #9
01-20-2005, 02:40 AM #10
01-20-2005, 04:05 AM #11Associate Member
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some bloat is not a bad thing after all, you are less prone to injuries because of more lubriucated joints. A course i did 2 years ago Test susp/cypionate /prop i used arimidex .5 proviron 25 mg and 20 mg nolva (fear of bloating). Didnt bloat thats true but didnt grow as much as i hoped, got 3 injuries in that period and strength gains were not great as well. you need some of that estrogen dont be afraid to hold some water
01-20-2005, 04:27 AM #12
excess water is not really good for anything it s just stresses the cardiovascular (sp?) system even more. so why risk it?
01-20-2005, 06:17 AM #13Originally Posted by ***xxx***
Nolva will help keep bloat down somewhat. EQ will keep you pretty hard throughout your cycle, but be a little more careful with your joints and make sure you eat like a horse cause that is what EQ is for.
True excess water will contribute to a higher BP which is not a good thing.
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