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01-19-2005, 08:43 AM
gpapa1

EQ compare Deca

Is EQ so harsh in HPTA as Deca?
01-19-2005, 09:51 AM
Big_Lex

do a search so much threads on that topic
01-19-2005, 12:29 PM
tycin

not as bad as deca Imo but it all depends on the person. either one run with test is all good.
01-19-2005, 02:03 PM
Ntpadude

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Originally Posted by gpapa1

Is EQ so harsh in HPTA as Deca?

The two bad ones are Deca and Tren... that is for injectables, hardest steroid period is anadrol. Everything else is not so bad. EQ I understand is a very very close cousin to testosterone, closer then 1-test and it WILL convert to estrogen in high enough quantities so maybe its not so bad. For my personal experience, testosterone is a very good steroid for men, if you do testosterone only cycles, the PCT recoveries are just unbelievably easier, quicker and more vigorous as compared to using stacks of deca, tren, etc. The only catch about testosterone only cycles is that you might not grow so well on them. Testosterone only cycles work better actually as being lower dose/longer runs, like 400 to 500 mg per week and 20 weeks or longer, then you get better fat burn offs, and more keepable gains then you would with 10 week testosterone only cycles. Since testosterone isnt so bad on keeping your HTPA from restarting, dont sweat the 20 week or longer thing, a 10 weeker on deca and test is more damaging to HTPA and natural test levels then 30 weeks on testosterone only.

If you are concerned about long lasting after effects from steroid use, straight testosterone is likely to give you less to worry about then any other substance, you just have to be careful of conversion to estrogen which is easy to block/defeat with nolva and other compounds.
01-19-2005, 02:33 PM
Big_Lex

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Originally Posted by Ntpadude

The two bad ones are Deca and Tren... that is for injectables, hardest steroid period is anadrol. Everything else is not so bad. EQ I understand is a very very close cousin to testosterone, closer then 1-test and it WILL convert to estrogen in high enough quantities so maybe its not so bad. For my personal experience, testosterone is a very good steroid for men, if you do testosterone only cycles, the PCT recoveries are just unbelievably easier, quicker and more vigorous as compared to using stacks of deca, tren, etc. The only catch about testosterone only cycles is that you might not grow so well on them. Testosterone only cycles work better actually as being lower dose/longer runs, like 400 to 500 mg per week and 20 weeks or longer, then you get better fat burn offs, and more keepable gains then you would with 10 week testosterone only cycles. Since testosterone isnt so bad on keeping your HTPA from restarting, dont sweat the 20 week or longer thing, a 10 weeker on deca and test is more damaging to HTPA and natural test levels then 30 weeks on testosterone only.

If you are concerned about long lasting after effects from steroid use, straight testosterone is likely to give you less to worry about then any other substance, you just have to be careful of conversion to estrogen which is easy to block/defeat with nolva and other compounds.

yea and dont forget that hair loss. gets me on every test cycle
01-19-2005, 05:10 PM
HazyA

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Originally Posted by Ntpadude

The only catch about testosterone only cycles is that you might not grow so well on them. Testosterone only cycles work better actually as being lower dose/longer runs, like 400 to 500 mg per week and 20 weeks or longer, then you get better fat burn offs, and more keepable gains then you would with 10 week testosterone only cycles.

Can you explain why this is?
01-19-2005, 05:34 PM
BajanBastard

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Originally Posted by Ntpadude

The two bad ones are Deca and Tren... that is for injectables, hardest steroid period is anadrol. Everything else is not so bad. EQ I understand is a very very close cousin to testosterone, closer then 1-test and it WILL convert to estrogen in high enough quantities so maybe its not so bad. For my personal experience, testosterone is a very good steroid for men, if you do testosterone only cycles, the PCT recoveries are just unbelievably easier, quicker and more vigorous as compared to using stacks of deca, tren, etc. The only catch about testosterone only cycles is that you might not grow so well on them. Testosterone only cycles work better actually as being lower dose/longer runs, like 400 to 500 mg per week and 20 weeks or longer, then you get better fat burn offs, and more keepable gains then you would with 10 week testosterone only cycles. Since testosterone isnt so bad on keeping your HTPA from restarting, dont sweat the 20 week or longer thing, a 10 weeker on deca and test is more damaging to HTPA and natural test levels then 30 weeks on testosterone only.

If you are concerned about long lasting after effects from steroid use, straight testosterone is likely to give you less to worry about then any other substance, you just have to be careful of conversion to estrogen which is easy to block/defeat with nolva and other compounds.

Incorrect on the issue of boldenone. 1-test is dihydroboldenone. The hardest steriod IMO is not anadriol (oxymetholone) not by a long shot. MENT, trenbolone and methlytrienolone etc are much harder.

On your statement of longer, lower dose testosterone cycles.

1 person uses 1000mg wk of test for 10wks and gains 30lbs, keeps 25.
The other 500mg wk test for 20 wks gains and kept the same, well who came out on top?