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    Deca Only BIG MISTAKE

    OK Guys, Just found this site about 10 weeks into my first Deca only cycle. I ran 12 weeks at 600 mgs of Deca and no PCT ( Totally uneducated ). Three weeks after last shot and im living my worst nightmere NO WOOD! Totally shut down...I'v searched and found some sugestions with Yohimbe. My question is how long will this last and should I run some TEST or just ride it out till my natural Test levels rise? Dont think Viagra is a viable option with no libido...BTW on the good side put on little over 30 lbs have kept strenght lost about 5 lbs...

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    sorry to hear about your luck bro..you should have done more research b4 you did this. i honestly dont think running test now will do anything 4 you .you need pct,!!! even if your gonna run test now anyway after the fact....if your not back to normal in the next 2-3 weeks viagra might be your only option.
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    Check out the PCT stickie by Pheednos. You would actually not start pct for 2 to 3 weeks after last shot of test (which should run a week minimum long than deca ). So you will still benefit now from clomid, novla, and l-dex that is discussed. Also trib and tonkat alli (or similar spelling) will help with deca pecker.

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    i would order some clomid from the ar site now. you will get in a couple days and start it as soon as you get it.

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    yes do pheenos PCT


    PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
    Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

    Extended protocol sample for a 12+ month cycle:
    Day 1-15_ .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
    Day 16-45_.25mg L-dex + 75mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
    Day 46-65_.25mg L-dex + 20mg Nolva
    Day 66-80_.25mg L-dex


    Get some tribulus and eat 4g E/D as long as you can afford to.

    Ive done a Deca only cycle a long time ago and it sucks. I didnt really get Deca Dick from what I remember. But I relized that I was in worse shape after I came off then when I first started.

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    Get some Tribulus and Tongkat Ali from the health food store as well, they help during PCT to get the wood back

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    ZMA supplements as well will help you. You could also add a very small dosage of proviron like half a tab a day to fix your libido problem. I dont usually use it in PCT but if your libido is completely gone id add it in. I doubt it will have any effect on the HPTA at such dosage, but dont go higher it will hinder your recovery

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    I had a simliar experience with deca only. I was on clomid for a long time during PCT and it still took a while to recover. I would say buy some cialis.

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    Thanx for all the feedback everyone! O now that Im educated on how to run a proper cycle how long before I can start my next with no complications, does it depend on my body or is there a certin amount of time???

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    Not too hot on deca info, but cabergoline could also help your libido issues (along with good PCT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggytalls
    Thanx for all the feedback everyone! O now that Im educated on how to run a proper cycle how long before I can start my next with no complications, does it depend on my body or is there a certin amount of time???
    I ran the deca only for 10 weeks. I waited 12 weeks then jumped onto a test only cycle and my libido was through the roof in no time. Came off the test only with ease, no loss of libido or wood. It was nothing like coming off the deca only.

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    jd

    i know this was posted yesterday, but did you do deca only for 10 wks than waited till week 12 for test only or you waited another 12 weeks than started the test ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManzNumero1
    jd

    i know this was posted yesterday, but did you do deca only for 10 wks than waited till week 12 for test only or you waited another 12 weeks than started the test ?
    I did deca only for 10 weeks. Then I waited 12 weeks. Time on = time off. Then I started the test cycle. You could only wait 10 weeks though. Maybe even 8 if your anxious.

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    how was it during that time off though, was the sex drive down, or did it come back

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    The sex drive started coming back, but it was slow. This is weird to think, but its almost like the test cycle fixed it. I would say that I wasn't 100% recovered when I started the test. Then sex drive was through the roof, which is understandable considering I was supplementing with exogenous testosterone . But that would only cause my HPTA to be further suppressed. But when I came off the test my sex drive was normal. Weird. But anyway, I would recommend buying some cialis if you're having problems maintaining wood. That stuff is great.

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    if you buy cialis in powder form , can you just eat the powder instead of like capping it ? like throw it in a shake or something.

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    I don't know. I get it in liquid form. Its cheap enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggytalls
    OK Guys, Just found this site about 10 weeks into my first Deca only cycle. I ran 12 weeks at 600 mgs of Deca and no PCT ( Totally uneducated ). Three weeks after last shot and im living my worst nightmere NO WOOD! Totally shut down...I'v searched and found some sugestions with Yohimbe. My question is how long will this last and should I run some TEST or just ride it out till my natural Test levels rise? Dont think Viagra is a viable option with no libido...BTW on the good side put on little over 30 lbs have kept strenght lost about 5 lbs...
    Get yourself some clomid... you typically wont respond well to clomid until about 4 weeks after last deca injection so most guys continue testosterone for a couple weeks after the last deca to avoid an extended crash or doing the clomid before your body is ready. Then take clomid every day for 2 weeks, 50 mg a day is fine and this will kick your natural testosterone into pretty close to high gear.

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