my cycle then

week 1 and 2 sus 500 deca 300
week 2 to 8 sus 250 deca 300 apart from week 8 i will take 200 deca
week 10 to 13 take clomid
if some are losted here please look at other messagesregards shadow 123
it will be somethink like this
i am 26m 75 kgs 6ft
2nd time on juice took sus/deca/hcg put the gains on i wanted then losted them all with in 5 weeks after stopping.
this time i want to keep gains
i was thinking of getting 10 sus 250 mgs each
24 deca 100mgs each
1.5 packets of clomid
1 pack of novadex ( may not use novadex)


sorry about the english
regards again shadow123

come on guys want your advice.

No worries about your english bro - I understood it fine.

Your doses seem kind of low. Personally I would kep it at the doses you proposed for frontloading - but if you have your own reasons for keeping your test at 250 then go for it. Though I would suggest this - if you want a LOW dose of test - dont use sust. - use enanthate or cypionate or even prop.

just had a tester of 1 deca and 2 omerdan250.so will this matter if i go on to sus and deca, clomid, in a few days. want to stay on these 2 as with other types of test u lose more gains when stopping, thanks for your advice any way

Haven't you asked this question before? It seems like you've asked the same question many times before. I know many bros answered you on this. I know I did.

no not the one above, just getting some reseach here so lay off please ...........

You lose more gains with other testosterone then you will with sus?

Bro if you want to use those two that's fine. Please don't disregard my advice based on that suggestion - trust me, I know a little bit about steroids. :)

If you have just a small amount of sus and deca and that's the doses you feel comfortable with - then you're find running it as you stated. Though I would suggest running deca like that (w/out tapering at the end) and run the sus till wk 10 - then you will be ready to start clomid round wk 12

I hate Deca:)

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thanks mike
i am going to do that then add a little bit more sus, with the deca and clomid.
i guess this will be the best cycle to take to keep my gains as after looking on here for a while i cannot find anythink better
can anybody else find a better cycle for keeping gains.
regards shadow123