need help with next cycle

**panzer** · 01-26-2005, 07:01 PM

Hi guys, need some help with my next cycle.
it will be my 4th
Im 32, 5'8 203, not sure of BF% but have a bit of the belly and love handles, not alot but when flexed you can only see the two upper abs...and then theres the belly donut around the belly button! lol
1st cycle was 400mg test E....after 4wks got gyno and went off!

2nd cycle was test cyp 500mg/wk...16wks with d-bol 30mg/day-4wks
arimidex .25mg/day start to finish
gained 16 lbs

3rd test cyp/600mg/wk
400mg deca
....10wks....5lbs
what a waste of $ that cycle was.

diet is pretty good, aimed for 300mg of protein/day usuall got around 240

what should I try this time?
also should I loose all the fat first or does it matter?
thanks

**dirtdawg** · 01-26-2005, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by panzer

Hi guys, need some help with my next cycle.
it will be my 4th
Im 32, 5'8 203, not sure of BF% but have a bit of the belly and love handles, not alot but when flexed you can only see the two upper abs...and then theres the belly donut around the belly button! lol
1st cycle was 400mg test E....after 4wks got gyno and went off!

2nd cycle was test cyp 500mg/wk...16wks with d-bol 30mg/day-4wks
arimidex .25mg/day start to finish
gained 16 lbs

3rd test cyp/600mg/wk
400mg deca
....10wks....5lbs
what a waste of $ that cycle was.

diet is pretty good, aimed for 300mg of protein/day usuall got around 240

what should I try this time?
also should I loose all the fat first or does it matter?
thanks

what are your goals, and what can u get

**panzer** · 01-26-2005, 07:11 PM

size...looking to put on some good mass, as for what I can get....only have one source and Im unsure of that...

**dirtdawg** · 01-26-2005, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by panzer

size...looking to put on some good mass, as for what I can get....only have one source and Im unsure of that...

u didnt grow from deca and cyp?who made them? how many calories were u eating,if your diet isnt right, you are really doing more harm than good on your body

**GetPumped** · 01-26-2005, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by panzer

only have one source and Im unsure of that...

You should double check your source and make sure he isn't selling fake gear if that is where you got your last cycle from. With 600mg/wk of cyp and 400mg/wk of deca for ten weeks and only a 5 pound gain.....that doesn't sound right bro. With a cycle like that you should have gained close to 20lbs if your diet was right.

**panzer** · 01-26-2005, 07:25 PM

hate to knock them as Ive heard lots of good things but I used PVL cyp 300mg/ml and VL Deca 300mg/ml

**panzer** · 01-26-2005, 07:28 PM

guess I need a new source.
...help!

**dirtdawg** · 01-26-2005, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by panzer

hate to knock them as Ive heard lots of good things but I used PVL cyp 300mg/ml and VL Deca 300mg/ml

imo, go to the diet forum and get that in check,and also get your training tweeked, u should have put on at least 20 pounds from that, either that or the gear was bunk, a good bulker is deca and cyp or enth, and that would have been the cycle i would have suggested

**panzer** · 01-26-2005, 07:35 PM

Ok, I will check those out, but I think I was doing weel in both areas...like I mentioned, 2nd cycle I gained 16lbs while using .25mg of arimidex a day....so I probably would have gained at leat 20lbs or more without the anti-e.
I think I need a new source.....bueler?...anyone...?

**panzer** · 01-26-2005, 07:44 PM

so would that dose be good to try again if I can get some?
600 cyp and 300 or 400 deca
also how would you do the shots, mon/thurs cyp and once/wk of deca?

**dirtdawg** · 01-26-2005, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by panzer

Ok, I will check those out, but I think I was doing weel in both areas...like I mentioned, 2nd cycle I gained 16lbs while using .25mg of arimidex a day....so I probably would have gained at leat 20lbs or more without the anti-e.
I think I need a new source.....bueler?...anyone...?

bro, anti e's wont hurt your cycle, try a 1 g of cyp and 600 mgs of deca , but have your anti e's, either b 6 or dostinex, nolva, l dex and clomid