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    Cycle questions..

    Ive done a couple with good results, but my doses are smaller than alot of people on here recomend..


    my last cycle i gained 20 lbs in 9 weeks, alot was water and i dont want that again.. i went from 165 to 187.. did a cycle of DNP and dropped down to 173

    was using sust 250mg E5D
    20 mg dbol a day
    some primo


    I know thats probly a ****ty cycle, but this was before i was really reading into it. I have a few friends that do cycles and it sounded good at the time.
    Anyway, im 173 lbs now and only 5'4 and want to do a GOOD cycle, with not alot of water

    i was thinking test and eq or winny and anava

    which is better ? ups and downs?

    whats a resonable dose ? how much how often ?

    No im not an expert, im looking for advice not to be called stupid.. thanks in advance.

    PS, heres a pic anyone have and advice i know i need to lose fat and water. this was before my DNP cycle.. i was 183 in thhe pic
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    Should search "first cycle" and you can read the first few to the first thousand that pop up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    Should search "first cycle" and you can read the first few to the first thousand that pop up.
    its not my first cycle... im asking the difference on test and eq, vs winny and anova


    i thought this was steriod questions... ? maybe i missed somthing.. ill go try a search.

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    test/eq/winny thats what i plan on doing next

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    Quote Originally Posted by GettinSwoll47
    test/eq/winny thats what i plan on doing next

    what type of test ? and how much are you going to do of each ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prozak
    its not my first cycle... im asking the difference on test and eq, vs winny and anova


    i thought this was steriod questions... ? maybe i missed somthing.. ill go try a search.
    So, have you come up with a proposed cycle after doing your research?

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    1-6 var 50mg day
    1-14 test 500mg wek
    1-13 eq 400mg wek
    and then pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    1-6 var 50mg day
    1-14 test 500mg wek
    1-13 eq 400mg wek
    and then pct
    this cycle looks good, you could also add the winny wk 10-16 50ed

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    i was thinking of that but by his bf in the pic. i think he would be better to run a cutting cycle after this. he should be nice and lean but i think bf will still be over 12-15%

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    Ok.. heres my proposed cycle...

    i couldnt really find anything directly comparing var/winny VS test/eq

    Id rather go injectable anyway..

    1-6 var 50mg/day
    1-14 test 500mg wk.. ( which test ? E ? and what dose 2x /week ? EOD ? advice please
    1-13 eq 300-400mg /wk.. 2x wk
    maybe nolva 10-20mg ? advice here as well.. please

    and your basic pct..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prozak
    Ok.. heres my proposed cycle...

    i couldnt really find anything directly comparing var/winny VS test/eq

    Id rather go injectable anyway..

    1-6 var 50mg/day
    1-14 test 500mg wk.. ( which test ? E ? and what dose 2x /week ? EOD ? advice please
    1-13 eq 300-400mg /wk.. 2x wk
    maybe nolva 10-20mg ? advice here as well.. please

    and your basic pct..
    imo
    1-14 enth 800 mgs ew 2 x ew mon and thurs, same with eq
    1-13 eq 600 mgs ew
    8-14 var 40 mgs ed
    nolva 1-14 10 mgs ed then 290 mgs ed for pct
    1-14 trib 4 g's ed 6 g's ed for pct
    pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg
    imo
    1-14 enth 800 mgs ew 2 x ew mon and thurs, same with eq
    1-13 eq 600 mgs ew
    8-14 var 40 mgs ed
    nolva 1-14 10 mgs ed then 290 mgs ed for pct
    1-14 trib 4 g's ed 6 g's ed for pct
    pct


    that sounds great, but do i need 800mg ew ? the most i ever did was 250 and i got decent results.

    thats just unknown territory to me.. lol im scurred

    so much to read, not enough time in a day....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prozak
    that sounds great, but do i need 800mg ew ? the most i ever did was 250 and i got decent results.

    thats just unknown territory to me.. lol im scurred

    so much to read, not enough time in a day....

    how much do u want to gain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg
    how much do u want to gain?

    I want to put on some size, but i dont want to be like i was last time, i did dbol , deca and sust... i put on 20 lbs in 9 weeks.. which was awesome, but it was alot of water.

    is it normal to get stretch marks ? cause that gave me a few.

    im only 5'4 im short.. i dont want to be over 200 lbs.. id like to put on solid muscle rather than water weight... im 173 now

    so basically i want to look better. quality is the goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prozak
    I want to put on some size, but i dont want to be like i was last time, i did dbol , deca and sust... i put on 20 lbs in 9 weeks.. which was awesome, but it was alot of water.

    is it normal to get stretch marks ? cause that gave me a few.

    im only 5'4 im short.. i dont want to be over 200 lbs.. id like to put on solid muscle rather than water weight... im 173 now

    so basically i want to look better. quality is the goal.
    with that cycle you wont hold any water, and very little bloat l dex .25 mgs ed will helpa lot also, i am 5'9 195 so i know what you mean, with that cycle, you will grow to around 200, but solid, then when you come off, you might loose 5-10 lbs, or less, depends on a lot of variables, eq is very mild and takes awhile to kick in 6-8 weeks, the cycle i wrote out for you isnt a lot of gear, so dont be scurred

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg
    with that cycle you wont hold any water, and very little bloat l dex .25 mgs ed will helpa lot also, i am 5'9 195 so i know what you mean, with that cycle, you will grow to around 200, but solid, then when you come off, you might loose 5-10 lbs, or less, depends on a lot of variables, eq is very mild and takes awhile to kick in 6-8 weeks, the cycle i wrote out for you isnt a lot of gear, so dont be scurred

    Excellent. im going to do a little more research to make up my mind.

    My wife likes when im on it.. cause shes a nymph , shes more than happy to give me my shots.. hehe


    Thanks for all the input. im going shoppin tonight..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prozak
    My wife likes when im on it.. cause shes a nymph , shes more than happy to give me my shots.. hehe
    Jeez - have fun with that, bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prozak
    Ive done a couple with good results, but my doses are smaller than alot of people on here recomend..


    my last cycle i gained 20 lbs in 9 weeks, alot was water and i dont want that again.. i went from 165 to 187.. did a cycle of DNP and dropped down to 173

    was using sust 250mg E5D
    20 mg dbol a day
    some primo


    I know thats probly a ****ty cycle, but this was before i was really reading into it. I have a few friends that do cycles and it sounded good at the time.
    Anyway, im 173 lbs now and only 5'4 and want to do a GOOD cycle, with not alot of water

    i was thinking test and eq or winny and anava

    which is better ? ups and downs?

    whats a resonable dose ? how much how often ?

    No im not an expert, im looking for advice not to be called stupid.. thanks in advance.

    PS, heres a pic anyone have and advice i know i need to lose fat and water. this was before my DNP cycle.. i was 183 in thhe pic
    is that a bong hit your blowing in your face in the pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg
    is that a bong hit your blowing in your face in the pic?

    haha... didnt your momma tell you drugs are bad ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prozak
    haha... didnt your momma tell you drugs are bad ??

    i never listened

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