afraid of loosing hair, what to use?

**swest** · 01-29-2005, 05:55 PM

Im predisposed to loose my hair, i first noticed it during my last cycle of test e, currently im in pct and taking finasteride, i think it is helping, atleast im not loosing anymore...
for my next cycle i was thinking of test e or cyp togheter with eq, is this a bad idea if i dont wanna loose a single hair more?

LORDBLiTZ · 01-29-2005, 05:59 PM

That should be fine. Run 1mg of finasteride ED throughout the cycle.

**Sauced** · 01-29-2005, 06:32 PM

I lost some hair from Deca and Winny a few years ago. If I ran my fingers through my hair I would get 10-20 strands on my hand. I started taking Propecia in mid 2002 and not only has my hair stopped falling out, it actually got thicker! The doc said it takes 6 months to start working so stay on it.

**mule1983** · 01-29-2005, 06:41 PM

Ive Been Wondering About This Myself.... I Am Not Balding But My Tren Prop Cycle May Hurt My Hair... Let Me Know How It Works For You...also... Is Finasteride As A Research Chemical Just As Good?

**Duke of Earl** · 01-29-2005, 06:49 PM

dutasteride & topical spiro is good if you're really para (like me)

**swest** · 01-29-2005, 06:52 PM

hmm wats topical is is legal to buy? never heard of it, and supposing dutasteride is a drug similar to proscar...

**dive_kid** · 01-29-2005, 06:54 PM

winny is real hard on the ol hair line.
test and eq should be ok

**swest** · 01-29-2005, 07:09 PM

how about deca , is that bad for the old hairline?

**Duke of Earl** · 01-29-2005, 07:29 PM

how about deca, is that bad for the old hairline?

mild on the hair

winny is real hard on the ol hair line.
test and eq should be ok

test without a 5AR blocker is pretty harsh on the hair - I've got a load of Eq, just a bit scared to use it as I'm hearing mixed reports about eq / hairloss ( I know it's generally accepted as mild on the hair, but recently I've seen a few threads where eq has been blamed for hairloss )

Var is the mildest on the hair ( for me anyhow)

**phwSSJ** · 01-29-2005, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Sauced

I lost some hair from Deca and Winny a few years ago. If I ran my fingers through my hair I would get 10-20 strands on my hand. I started taking Propecia in mid 2002 and not only has my hair stopped falling out, it actually got thicker! The doc said it takes 6 months to start working so stay on it.

I read in many places that once you get off all your hair falls out again!

**yuri76** · 01-29-2005, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by phwSSJ

I read in many places that once you get off all your hair falls out again!

yep, you gotta stay on it

**Big Bapper** · 01-30-2005, 08:44 AM

Who need hair when you are BIG anyway LOL. Only jokeing Nizerol shampoo by itself works for me.

**Duke of Earl** · 01-30-2005, 07:55 PM

I read in many places that once you get off all your hair falls out again!

it doesn't all fall out suddenly - you will just start loosing hair at a similar rate to before the finasteride - so you will still have more hair than you 'should' (ie without having taken finast) even if you stop taking it.

**phwSSJ** · 01-31-2005, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by Duke of Earl

it doesn't all fall out suddenly - you will just start loosing hair at a similar rate to before the finasteride - so you will still have more hair than you 'should' (ie without having taken finast) even if you stop taking it.

No,
I have read a few studies that show within a six month period after discontinuance, the subjects scalps return to what it was before treatment.
So you dont get any more hair than what you started with!

Not only that but my friend was on it for about eighteen months.
That was a year ago, now he is pretty much bald and just shaves his head!

I am sure they have come up with a cure for this stuff, but why do that when
you can make people spend money every month for years!
Just like medicine they give to cancer patients, my frinds mom has to take this crap litteraly for the rest of her life, and it costs like $150 every week!!!!

Those blood sucking asshole mother fkers!
I hope they burn!!!!!

**Duke of Earl** · 01-31-2005, 07:22 AM

I have read a few studies that show within a six month period after discontinuance, the subjects scalps return to what it was before treatment.
So you dont get any more hair than what you started with!

this is what I'm saying

for example ( although things aren't this predictable in real life )

lets say you're losing 10% of your hair a year starting 1998
then by 2000 you'd lost 20% of your hair (ie. you still had 80%)
you start finast in 2000 and your hairloss stops
you take finast for 2 years then stop at the beginning of 2002
you will then start loosing hair at your 'natrual' rate (10% in this case)

so.......

In 2002 you will have 80% of your hair left if you had done 2 years of finast

whereas if you hadn't done 2 years of finast you would only have 60% of your hair left

in 2003 you'd have 70% left (with the 2 years of finast) or 50% without the finast

so even if you stop using it you will have more hair than you 'should' do natrually

ps

Those blood sucking asshole mother fkers!
I hope they burn!!!!!

agreed

**1morerep** · 01-31-2005, 09:10 PM

save yourself the aggrevation and stress just shave your head, i've been stress free and on time for dates for the past 5 years.

**marka** · 01-31-2005, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Duke of Earl

dutasteride & topical spiro is good if you're really para (like me)

Could you tell me the differance between Spiro and Dustaride, vs. Nizoral and Finasteride? I use the later, but curious about these first tow.

**BiGMiKE70** · 01-31-2005, 10:45 PM

I use propecia thats stops your hair from falling out pretty good but you cant stop taking it or the **** will fall out again so dont stop also the universal animal stack 2 has DHT blockers in it , that works good too or just wear a hat

**Duke of Earl** · 02-01-2005, 06:22 AM

Could you tell me the differance between Spiro and Dustaride, vs. Nizoral and Finasteride? I use the later, but curious about these first tow.

duasteride is basically a 'stronger' version of finasteride (>90% DHT conversion blocked as opposed to about 70% for finast)

spiro is an anti androgen - which actually 'blocks' androgen receptors - so if applied to the scalp it'll compete with DHT (or similar) & reduce its' effects - Nizoral (ketoconazole) supposedly works in a similar way, but it's not as potent.

ie
dutasteride = more potent finasteride
spironolactone = more potent ketoconazole (nizoral)

**KAEW44** · 02-01-2005, 08:31 AM

If Spiro is legal can u PM me where i can get the stuff please

**DSM4Life** · 02-01-2005, 09:00 AM

i been using rogain for a little and it seems to just give me dry scalp. I was thinking of trying Propecia . Since i already have thinning hair and this being my first cycle (just started yesterday) I was thinking about trying Propecia . Can you get it without perscription ??? Is it expensive ?

Will it have me looking like

**BiGMiKE70** · 02-01-2005, 02:29 PM

i pay about 140 for a 3 month supply yeah you gotta get a perscription just ask ur doc for 1

**fitnessNY** · 02-01-2005, 04:01 PM

I have had no probblems with hairloss on a deca /test cycle. I am also running propecia and nizoral.

**marka** · 02-06-2005, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Duke of Earl

duasteride is basically a 'stronger' version of finasteride (>90% DHT conversion blocked as opposed to about 70% for finast)

spiro is an anti androgen - which actually 'blocks' androgen receptors - so if applied to the scalp it'll compete with DHT (or similar) & reduce its' effects - Nizoral (ketoconazole) supposedly works in a similar way, but it's not as potent.

ie
dutasteride = more potent finasteride
spironolactone = more potent ketoconazole (nizoral)

Thanks for the answer.

**Anteros** · 02-06-2005, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by KAEW44

If Spiro is legal can u PM me where i can get the stuff please

www.xandrox.com

**Tristan Matthews** · 02-08-2005, 10:11 AM

if you were to take finasteride during a cycle, would that stop any affects on hair due to the cycle itself and leave the same way you would have been had you not done that cycle (assuming that you only take the finasteride or propecia etc while on your cycle)

if i need to explain the question a little better let me know