I Need Some Help With This...

**hardwork101** · 01-31-2005, 08:36 PM

I really need some help putting this next cycle together.I'd like to do 8 or 10 week's of bulking and then 8/10 cutting. I'm currently 5'10 215 13%bf. I already have this gear currently...

500 iu's of Jino
2500mg Test E
4000mg EQ
2500mg Winny
1500 mg Test P
1000mg Anavar
1250mg D-Bol
Can get Fina(Can't everybody?)
T-3's and Clen 's
Nolva and HCG

I've ran this over dozen's of time's on paper, but I can't decide which would be best. I've spent alot of loot attaining this gear and I just want to do it the most effective way. I know there is some good opinion's out there and I'd like to here them all.

**GetPumped** · 01-31-2005, 08:42 PM

Well to see really good results with the Jino, you need to take it for at least 4-6 months. With that said, I would start the jino first, then once that builds up in your system you can start your 8-10 week cycle.

I also see that you have 6 steroids listed and possibly fina. If I were you, I would maybe choose a combo of three of thoses. You won't need EQ, winny, tren , and var. IMO that is a little overkill. You have several "cutting" agents mixed in with some "bulking" agents....I would choose one or the other.

If you plan on cutting, I would go with the prop, EQ, and either var or winny. Then when you start PCT, you could use the clen or T3.

If you plan on bulking, you could jumpstart with the dbol and take the test enan, EQ, and tren.

Also, a lot of cutting/bulking has to do with diet too.

**AandF6969** · 01-31-2005, 08:49 PM

need more test E

**Consistency** · 01-31-2005, 08:51 PM

yeah need more test no matter what... right now you only got 7 weeks at 500mg and you said you wanna do a 20 weeker?

**gotagetbig** · 01-31-2005, 09:00 PM

Buy a book on steroids . Its great bathroom material!

**GetPumped** · 01-31-2005, 09:00 PM

Yes I didn't notice that, like the other bros said, you really need some more test enan.

**hardwork101** · 01-31-2005, 09:16 PM

I wanted to run it like this...

Bulking:
Wk 1-8
40mg ED D-Bol (week 1-4)
500 mg test e weekly(i know i'm short but i can get more locally)
400mg EQ weekly
3 iu's jino

Cutting:
Wk 8-16
50mg winny ED
400mg EQ (up to week 10)
40mg Var ED

More info please..

**Consistency** · 01-31-2005, 09:22 PM

You need test throughout.. I would run it like this

wk 1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
wk 1-16 Test 500mg
wk 1-15 EQ 400mg
wk 13-18 Winny 50mg ED *OR week 11-18 Var 40mg ED
wk 17-18 Test Prop 75mg ED

nolva 10mg ED, start pct 2 weeks after last E test injection (3days after prop)

16 weeks isnt realy long enough to run a bulker/cutter... besides its mostlly about diet

**hardwork101** · 01-31-2005, 10:22 PM

I know its 90% diet, I always eat clean, and I eat accordingly bulking/cutting.
I gain easy, I have done not a cycle in 2 years, so I know I'll be responsive to aas.
I planned on being bloated for the bulker. I wanna run Test P during the cutter because you bloat less. I just figured that during the cutter I could turn the bloated bulk into soild mass with the Var and winny.