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02-01-2005, 06:46 PM #1
3rd Cycle Opinions
I've done 2 cycles in the past Test/EQ and Prop/Winny. I'm 6'3 227 pounds BF~11%. I will be 22 once I start this cycle in the summer.
wk 1-4 Test Prop 50mg ED
wk 1-8 Var 50mg ED
wk 1-16 Test E 500mg
wk 1-15 EQ 500mg
wk 13-18 Winny 50mg ED
wk 17-18 Prop 50mg ED
Milk Thistle 1g ED, Trib 2g ED, nolva on hand (not gyno prone)
Start HCG halfway through cycle.
4 weeks of PCT (clomid nolva) 3 days after last prop shot
Few questions: Exactly what is the best way for me to run the HCG? Never run Var before, is my dose too high/low?
Any other ideas, suggestions, thoughts? Am I missing something?
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02-01-2005, 06:49 PM #2
looks go to me, just curious why you are doing the prop again at the end of your cycle...what is the reason behind this
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02-01-2005, 06:56 PM #3
looks good bro! but i would run the nolva thruout anyways since its good for ur lipid profile. the var looks good like that and as for hcg i dont run it i use 3-4g of trib thruout mt cycle and then bump it up a little a week b4 pct. a lot easier and i think it works just as well.
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02-01-2005, 06:57 PM #4
abd i would personally run the prop 100mg/day
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02-01-2005, 07:10 PM #5Originally Posted by GettinSwoll47
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02-01-2005, 07:53 PM #6Originally Posted by tycin
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02-01-2005, 08:01 PM #7Member
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just curious whats the var do?
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02-01-2005, 08:08 PM #8Originally Posted by Consistency
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02-01-2005, 08:09 PM #9Originally Posted by nate3422
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02-01-2005, 08:17 PM #10
looks good man, but i would run nolva throughout also to help with bloating even if your not gyno prone. I come from old school and have ran some pretty heafty cycles of just about everything and never gotten any gyno, but will never run another without nolva.
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02-01-2005, 09:04 PM #11Originally Posted by Consistency
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02-01-2005, 09:59 PM #12Originally Posted by Nathan
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02-02-2005, 03:23 PM #13
thats a good anavar dose..dont need to raise it
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02-02-2005, 03:55 PM #14Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
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02-03-2005, 09:45 AM #15
Back to my questions... I was thinking about using HCG at 500iu's twice a week starting week 9.
Now, when should I stop HCG for pct and I know it prevents testicular atrophy, but will it make PCT easier, smoother, basically will I recover faster?
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02-03-2005, 09:23 PM #16Originally Posted by Consistency
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02-10-2005, 03:49 PM #17
To be honest, i wouldnt even run the test prop, the var will be your jump start.
As for your HCG , the 500ius 2x a week will be fine up until PCT.
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02-10-2005, 05:13 PM #18Originally Posted by bdtr
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02-10-2005, 05:15 PM #19
ah for 15 bucks, id do it then.
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02-10-2005, 05:30 PM #20Originally Posted by bdtr
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02-10-2005, 06:36 PM #21Originally Posted by Consistency
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02-10-2005, 06:39 PM #22Originally Posted by dirtdawg
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02-10-2005, 06:53 PM #23Originally Posted by Consistency
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02-10-2005, 07:43 PM #24
Smart bro with the prop at the end, everyone should do that instead of stopping for two weeks, you only need 3 days before you go on PCT. I do the same.
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02-10-2005, 08:20 PM #25Originally Posted by dirtdawg
as for the prop, I believe it will actually help keep blood levels more stable... I i will be taking enanthate at 500mg, but my blood levels wont have 500mg of test in them until around week 4 or so when it is fully saturated and stabilized. So the prop in the beggining should stabilze after a few days, in theory I will only have 750mg of overall (prop and enan) test "in me" the last few days of the 4th week of prop. On that note, at the end of my cycle there will be a 2 week gap of diminishing test in my body (obviously due to the half life) so the hopefully the prop will keep the levels overall levels around 500mg until the 3 days before I start pct. I hope all this makes sense, its kinda hard to explain.
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02-10-2005, 08:31 PM #26
Bro you know what you are doing, you have been around long enough. What kind of gains did you get on the last cyle with prop and eq and what did you keep?
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02-10-2005, 08:38 PM #27Originally Posted by mark956101957
2nd cycle- Prop 150mg EOD / Winny 50mg ed. Again 12 weeks. Only gained about 11 pounds but dropped 2%BF so thats a 16lb muscle gain. Strength on this cycle was the greatest, 1 rep max at bench was 420, and was working on heavy deadlifts till I kinda tweaked my lower back. But im on week 2 of pct right now, and feel fine, just lost about 3-4 pounds though i blame part of that on the fact that Im training for a boxing tournament right now, so its a little different training method then bodybuilding style.
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02-10-2005, 10:35 PM #28Originally Posted by Consistency
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