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02-05-2005, 09:17 PM #41Originally Posted by 1-Cent
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02-05-2005, 09:17 PM #42
cut it in half, right down the middle actually maybe something like 1000mg test/week, 700mg tren /week.
Go see a doctor and get the gyno removed, its a fairly easy operation, barely any scars from it either.
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02-05-2005, 09:20 PM #43Originally Posted by bdtr
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02-05-2005, 09:22 PM #44
How long have you been running this cycle like this? How long do you plan on staying on?
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02-05-2005, 09:23 PM #45Originally Posted by bdtr
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02-05-2005, 09:24 PM #46Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by cj1capp
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02-05-2005, 09:26 PM #47Originally Posted by aXe
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02-05-2005, 09:39 PM #48
couldnt hurt but the letro should be taking care of it that is some strong stuff if you have been taking it for 3 months it should have kicked in already how long have you been feeling the gyno problems?
I have gyno and letro works for me not to see any new growth.
But sometimes I noticed that latter on at night I would get some sensations so maybe try and dose the nolva at 20mg morning and 20mg more(totaling 40) in the evening it worked for me.
By the way if you have estrogen in check then no amount of progesterone can actually cause the lumps to form. You will get pains and lactation but after the cycle is stopped and levels normal then it will go away. Leaving you without actual lumps that need to be removed.
A typical gyno surgery is anywhere from 2000-4000 dollars your spending close to that on this cycle if it gets worse then save up and get the surgery.
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02-05-2005, 09:47 PM #49Originally Posted by Bryan2
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02-05-2005, 09:49 PM #50Originally Posted by Bryan2
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02-05-2005, 09:52 PM #51Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by cj1capp
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02-05-2005, 09:56 PM #52
If someone decides to cycle year long they have to make descions on a few things.
1. If you decide to come off eventually, the chances are great that you will NOT be able to recover and need to be on test therapy the rest of your life. This means no children, so lots of trips to the sperm bank for deposits and storage before you decide to do this incase you ever want children.
2. Be prepared to go to the doctors quite a bit, lots of testing etc..
3. Are you mentally ready to handle being on steroids the rest of your life? It seems like a stupid question but its very valid, how old are you?
You have to weigh the risks vs rewards, much like any other situation. For some the risk is far too great, for others it is nothing in their mind.
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02-05-2005, 09:58 PM #53Originally Posted by Whitey
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02-05-2005, 10:06 PM #54Originally Posted by bdtr
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02-05-2005, 10:22 PM #55
Man it sounds like you have a pretty good life you should relax on all the steroids , take it down a notch be safer for ur childrens sake and do alot more research.
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02-05-2005, 10:29 PM #56
Wow...........
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02-05-2005, 10:30 PM #57Originally Posted by cj1capp
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02-05-2005, 10:35 PM #58Originally Posted by G.I JOE
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02-05-2005, 10:40 PM #59Originally Posted by slizzut
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02-05-2005, 10:45 PM #60Originally Posted by cj1capp
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02-05-2005, 10:47 PM #61Originally Posted by 1-Cent
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02-05-2005, 10:50 PM #62Originally Posted by cj1capp
Im not on test yet so that explains the kindness j/k, But i do know how u feel I use to be overweight also loosing 40lbs made the world of difference to me but I did alot of research before even thinking of starting a cycle. Hopefuly ur gyno gets resolved and maybe you'll be a bit more careful next time.
Good luck to you.
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02-05-2005, 10:50 PM #63Originally Posted by cj1capp
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02-05-2005, 10:57 PM #64Originally Posted by G.I JOE
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02-05-2005, 11:00 PM #65Originally Posted by v-force700
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02-05-2005, 11:03 PM #66New Member
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02-05-2005, 11:05 PM #67Originally Posted by javman1
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02-05-2005, 11:09 PM #68Originally Posted by cj1capp
Not making light of your situation. I hope you get the problem with your nips under control. And I also hope you take all the good advice and back off a little. You Kidneys and prostate have to be screaming!!!!!
Good luck <<<V>>>
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02-05-2005, 11:10 PM #69Banned
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Om still not sure I believe this thread. No one can be that ignorant and if so, you should be a blonde with big tits so your on yor way.
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02-05-2005, 11:17 PM #70Originally Posted by toolman
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02-05-2005, 11:54 PM #71
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02-05-2005, 11:55 PM #72
cj1,
Hormones converts to estrogen if the liver can not covert them over fast enough to test. You my friend are doing to high of a cycle for your body to convert to test. This is why you are suffering from a flux of estrogen and inflamation of the mammory glands. Also, running clomd during cycle does nothing. It's a weak SERM and it's only purpose which studies have shown is to the stimulation of LH levels. If androgen levels are to high in the body this counter acts clomids stimulation and renders it useless.
Also, you are running your SERMS and AI's way to high and are probably suffering from an imbalanced lipid profile. Wouldn't put it past it. I read you get blood work done and you're ok but I find this hard to believe. You need to lower your dosage way down and keep running nolva at 40-60mg's ED and run half that letro dosage.
Listen to what I am telling you because you are hurting your self as we speak and will cause irreversible damage if you dont. You do not know what you are doing.
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02-06-2005, 12:24 AM #73Anabolic Member
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Believe me, bro - bdtr and LMR are 2 bros you should listen to. Be safe.
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02-06-2005, 01:49 AM #74
seeing as how most people run tren for only about 8 weeks, and thats at around 75mg/ED, I cant imagine what running it year round at 250mg/ED would be like.
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02-06-2005, 04:47 AM #75Member
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Wow, I think you should realize that your goals and ideals have got totally out of hand. I'm young and unexperienced and I will not be a smartass on you. But I think you should stop and start thinking about every aspects of what you're doing.
Obviously you're running a sick amount of gear. Yet it doesn't seem like you hate life and don't give a sh!t. You've just lost controll. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.. You do wanna live, right? What about your colesterol level? In the long run..? Think about your kids! What you're doing is extreme and not very responsible taking in consideration that you have kids and family.
What if something happens to you and prevent you from lifting and working out? At 300 lbs... you don't wanna turn into a fat pig ever again do you?
I think you should come down to earth and take controll over your situation right now.
And for the bitch tits surgery I've read that 50% is unhappy about the results. Of course I can't confirm anything that's just what I've read. What could go wrong is that your nipple will suck in, if you know what I mean?
Good luck, I hope it all works out well for you eventually.
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02-06-2005, 08:27 AM #76Originally Posted by 1-Cent
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02-06-2005, 08:34 AM #77Originally Posted by toolman
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02-06-2005, 09:26 AM #78Banned
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Originally Posted by toolman
Still, this is insane gear usage and it is my belief that people using like this give us all a bad name when they get serious sides and in some cases die. No knowledge or research went into this cycle and I get pissed when I see people doing this to themselves. I figured the guy has to be joking, but if he isn't, his lesson will come from the damage he is doing to his body so he doesn't need me berating him. Good luck bro, I think you're going to need it.
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02-06-2005, 09:28 AM #79Member
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Originally Posted by cj1capp
I have 2 girls , one on the way . I know you want them to be proud of you and you want to look good . But you can do it all without these extremes .
What happenes when you die and everyone blames steroids . They'll grow up thinking you were a loser . The way steroids are portrayed to non-users through the media, you might as well be injecting 2 grams of heroin a day .
btw......steroids have a bad name because of people running **** like what your doing . Just my honest opinion .
good luck
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02-06-2005, 12:06 PM #80Originally Posted by toolman
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