2nd cycle help

**conix** · 02-06-2005, 07:22 AM

hows my second cycle.
week 1-6 cyp 300mg ew
week 3-8 winny 25mg ed
week 8 pct

please critique

**ace ventura** · 02-06-2005, 07:44 AM

That's not a good cycle.

You need to run the test for at least 8 weeks. You won't get much out of it if you quit right after the test has started to kick in. Since the dose is only 300 mg/week you should definitely consider to do it at 10-12 weeks. It will still be a mild cycle.

I have no clue about the winny, however, you should end it at the same time. Don't stop test before the winny. Start PCT two weeks after the last shot of test.

What are your goals for this cycle?
Also, do you have clomid and nolva on hand?

**Ejuicer** · 02-06-2005, 12:38 PM

I'd say run the test for a min of 10 weeks include some prop, d-bol or drol for a 4 week jump based on what you said...
What did your first cycle look like and what are your goals with your current one?

**irish bulldog** · 02-06-2005, 12:48 PM

i would do 400-500mg of test for more than 8 weeks

**longhorn814** · 02-06-2005, 01:03 PM

do this:
1-10 cyp 4-500 mg/wk
8-12 winny 50 mg/day
12-15PCT

you could kick start it with prop for the first 4 weeks if you'd like. I wouldnt recommend kicking it with dbol b/c you'd be running two orals in one cycle, not a good idea IMO

**ace ventura** · 02-06-2005, 01:25 PM

So it's okey to start pct while on winnie? Why do that? What the hell is the purpose of stopping test at week 10 if he's going to run the winnie through out week 12?

**longhorn814** · 02-06-2005, 03:20 PM

no you start PCT the day after your last dose of winny (two weeks after last shot of test), my bad. That way you can still keep getting gains while test is filtering out of your system.

**ace ventura** · 02-06-2005, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

no you start PCT the day after your last dose of winny (two weeks after last shot of test), my bad. That way you can still keep getting gains while test is filtering out of your system.

Woops, I forgot that winny has a short half life. I misunderstood, you said nothing about taking winny with PCT. My bad, as I said I don't know much about that drug cause I haven't done much research on it. You probably have more knowledge than me on this one so I take back what I said.

Allways get a second opinion!

**conix** · 02-08-2005, 06:06 AM

my last cycle was 10 weeks of test cyp 280mg ew and i gained 8lbs out of it

my goals are lean gains and some cuts..

what if i frontload my test? can i still shorten the number of weeks of test? becasuse im going out of the country after week 8 after my pct...

are there any other mild, short cycles that you can suggest?

**longhorn814** · 02-08-2005, 07:41 AM

8 lbs in 10 weeks off of cyp? Thats not much bro. Whats your diet look like? Are you eating enough? If you want some lean gains stack 500 mg of test with 400 mg of Eq per week. I would really run it at least 10 weeks. Eq should really be run for about 12 weeks