02-09-2005, 10:17 AM #1
Please give me a detailed cutting cycle..
I have read throught so many posts about cycles on cutting and because of it Im more confused now than I was before !! So many say do this and others saying dont do it and so on. I have tried the search button but it never works for me - just fails to load the result of the search!
All I would like is a cycle laid out for me that I can understand and follow, pref with reasons why you picked those choices please.
I am in my first bulking cycle and have 7 weeks left so after my PCT I am going to do a cutting cycle. Preferably one that doesnt involve injections more often than EOD (Pref less) and ones with low sides etc if possible.
I know about diet and training but am new to the steroid world.
Thanks a lot
P.S. I have read a lot on them but still dont know enough to make my own cycle that will give good muscle definition, lose fat and prevent muscle loss on a colorie deficit.
02-09-2005, 10:24 AM #2
need more info..
age, ht wt..
this being your 2nd cycle..
tell us about the pct you used after the first one..
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02-09-2005, 11:57 AM #3
02-09-2005, 12:03 PM #4
prop,fina,eq,var/winny is great but not for beginers. give us more info
02-09-2005, 02:30 PM #5
Thanks for those.
I am still on my very first cycle and this is the start of week 4 for me. Gains so far when I weighed in on monday have been approx 11lbs (I dont think any is water retention as I use nolva also and am still quite vascular). I have done 3 PH cycles before and one of them was M1T.
Age = 23
Height = 5'10"
Weight = 201lbs
BF = I guess at about 12% (Not sure, can see 6-pack OK, Big vein on arms and some on legs - bit of fat round the waist and lower back so just a guess at BF%!)
I am going to use Nolva/Clomid/Tribulus/ZMA in my PCT which will be for approx 7-8 weeks long.
Anymore info needed just ask.
02-09-2005, 02:35 PM #6
u shouldnt start another cycle as soon as u finish ur current one, usually u follow time on=time off. but the best way to c if ur ready to satrt again is to get blood work done, if everything is back to normal then ur good to go. aslo pct for 7-8 weeks?? pct should only last 25 days or so.
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02-09-2005, 03:23 PM #8
Sorry I didnt mean I was on PCT for the whole time, My PCT is going to be for 30days
Day 1-30- 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
This is going to start 3 weeks after my last injection of sus/deca and I will use the tribulus and others (Maybe some Tong Kat too) during these 3 weeks and beyond. Thats OK yeah ?
About the blood work, I have already spoke to my doctor and he told me to come back when Ive finished my PCT and then if all is OK Ill start my cutting cycle. I am shortening my off time a little because summer is coming soon and due to circumstances I started my bulking a little late. So, Im doing this just the once!
I will look through that site to maybe make my own but would really appreciate people cutting cycles cos they're from personal experience also.
02-09-2005, 03:31 PM #9
i like doin pct like this: day 1 300mg/clomid days 2-11 100mg/clomid days 12-22 50mg/clomid and 20mg/nolva thruout.
good luck bro.
02-09-2005, 03:38 PM #10
You know what, I think Ill do it the way you say above - thanks! One Q I was going to ask, can I just use 10mg nolva daily instead of 20 ?? Will the extra 10 really make the diff wen with clomid ?
thanks and sorry to go off subject!
02-09-2005, 03:50 PM #11
im sure u could get away with using 10mg.
02-09-2005, 03:51 PM #12
clomid isnt an anti-e tho so u have to keep an eye on gyno symptoms
02-09-2005, 04:03 PM #13
A simple nice cutting cycle would be:
wk 1-15 Test Prop 150mg EOD
wk 1-12 EQ 400mg
wk 10-15 Winny 50mg ED or (wk 8-15 Var 50mg ED)
could do clen /eca (but I dont like clen)
nolva 10mg ed
start PCT 3 days after last prop shot
02-09-2005, 04:25 PM #14
That cycle looks pretty good but Ill keep an eye out for other oppinions OK. Would appreciate it if you could state how often EQ gets taken - and am I right in thinking this is Equipoise ?? By the looks of things I would have to have 8cc's worth to get the 400mg a week yes ? I think I would choose the VAR over winny or maybe an oral winny so i dont have to inject too often. Would that be OK ??
|Thanks so far - time for bed !!
02-09-2005, 04:27 PM #15Originally Posted by dazbo
Time for bed?? Where you from? Its only 6:30 here!
02-10-2005, 12:10 PM #16
Hi I havent bought any EQ yet but my book says what it normally comes in. I would prob be able to get the 250mg/ml version.
BTW Im in the UK so it was just before 12pm here.
02-10-2005, 03:04 PM #17
So does anyone else have any thoughts on this please ??
I just dont want to take 1 persons advice only for people to later turn around and say how wrong it is.
Although from what I know it looks pretty good.
One other thing is. I think Ill be able to reach the 15st mark in the next few weeks (Currently about 14.4st). This means that I am half a stone above my target weight. So, I was thinking, to help with the fat burning and tonind/definition etc, could I use the last few weeks of my bulking cycle to cut slightly and burn fat ?? By reducing cals, using L-Glut, gugs, BCAA's, and others and doing more cardio while still maintaining the muscle Ive gained ??
This would make my cutting cycle easier I believe - and yes, I knoow its not the normal cycle for cutting but thought doing this would still help ??
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02-10-2005, 03:08 PM #19
Oh yeah forgot bout inc that above !! Yes and reducing carbs to extremely low (Only as post workout meal/shake) Protein to 2g's per lb body weight etc and reducing calories down to 3000 (Approx 1000cals below maintenance)
02-11-2005, 11:38 AM #20
So I take it this idea would be OK to go ahead with then ?
02-12-2005, 08:35 AM #21
02-12-2005, 04:13 PM #22
noone got anymore thoughts on this ?
02-12-2005, 04:19 PM #23
check out the diet stickies in the diet forum they have all the info u need for a good diet.
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