ok new and need help -deca 300

**GR_Champ** · 02-09-2005, 04:39 PM

obviously ima noob but im starting my first cycle March 1-well im planning- jus gota call sayin my dude can get me deca 300 when i wantd deca durabolin .. whats the difference and is it worth even taking? some input and help plz...

**AandF6969** · 02-09-2005, 04:41 PM

Same thing, they're both norandrolone decoanate (sp?)

You need to stack testosterone with it, usually cypionate or enanthate for a first cycle. Stay away from propionate unless you want to do every day injections.

Do you have access to Nolvadex and Clomid?

**YounG_SluG11** · 02-09-2005, 04:41 PM

Yeah it's good you should add some test to it though.

**GR_Champ** · 02-09-2005, 04:43 PM

yeah i can get novadex - what kinda test preferred to stack with?

***G-1000*** · 02-09-2005, 04:45 PM

i would run test c

**YounG_SluG11** · 02-09-2005, 04:46 PM

Like AandF said Cypionate or Enanthate

**GR_Champ** · 02-09-2005, 04:48 PM

ok lets say i take it alone? what can i expect or should i not even try that and jus stack it

***G-1000*** · 02-09-2005, 04:49 PM

if you run it with no test you will get deca dick after 3 4 weeks.

**AandF6969** · 02-09-2005, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by gsxxr

if you run it with no test you will get deca dick after 3 4 weeks.

Let me elaborate on this...

Add testosterone to your cycle unless you don't care about being able to get an erection for the entire length of your cycle and possibly months afterward...

**GR_Champ** · 02-09-2005, 04:52 PM

haha **** -alrighty
can i stack novadex during my cycle to prevent that or no

**YounG_SluG11** · 02-09-2005, 04:53 PM

bro why don"t you just run test and you wont have them problems

**AandF6969** · 02-09-2005, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by GR_Champ

haha **** -alrighty
can i stack novadex during my cycle to prevent that or no

Nolvadex is used to make sure estrogen fat doesn't deposit in your breast tissue (bitch tits)

Clomid is also needed after the cycle to get your body producing natural testosterone again quickly and help you keep most of your gains.

**GR_Champ** · 02-09-2005, 04:54 PM

and m1t's obviously illegal now but who cares- still got them and use them.. should i stop or can i still use them

***G-1000*** · 02-09-2005, 04:56 PM

when you got the deca they did not tell you that you will need test

also when you run deca you need to run b-6 for the gyno

**GR_Champ** · 02-09-2005, 05:01 PM

nah i wasnt told anythin cuz i didnt get it yet- all i was told was he can get me deca 300 and let him know tonight if i want it or know... so i figured to come on here and ask but wtf is b-6 for the gyno? now i duno if i wana take this shiz- i wanted durabolin but i hear its jus about the same thing. i jus wana find out more about it before i actually buy it

***G-1000*** · 02-09-2005, 05:05 PM

deca can give you progesterone gyno that is y you need to run b-6

**GR_Champ** · 02-09-2005, 05:09 PM

i see i see- well how about this:
GOAL: gain around 20 lbs lean mass and keep about 70% or more if i can. dont wana look bloated but keep my cuts i have now or improve on them
what do u suggest i take or do

***G-1000*** · 02-09-2005, 05:12 PM

you first cycle should be test only 500mg with good diet and pct this should give you close to what you are looking for

**AandF6969** · 02-09-2005, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by gsxxr

good diet

Word.

**GR_Champ** · 02-09-2005, 05:19 PM

ok sounds really good- any type of test? and i will still need nolvadex righT? what about 6-oxo? isnt that similar to nolva

***G-1000*** · 02-09-2005, 05:21 PM

test Cypionate or Enanthate and yes you will need nolv 6-oxo is not going to this time my friend

**GR_Champ** · 02-09-2005, 05:26 PM

cool beans! alright wow thanks alot guys- def helpd me out alot

=) CHAMP

**peewee70** · 02-09-2005, 08:32 PM

I am taking 1ml of deca & 1ml cyp every four days. I will be taking my fith shot on saturday. My question is how long would i start seeing results i have not seeing no results yet. The only results i see is that i am eating like hell. Should i be taking a little more of each? Need help this is my first cycle

**Cordoba** · 02-09-2005, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by peewee70

I am taking 1ml of deca & 1ml cyp every four days. I will be taking my fith shot on saturday. My question is how long would i start seeing results i have not seeing no results yet. The only results i see is that i am eating like hell. Should i be taking a little more of each? Need help this is my first cycle

You should have started a new thread, anyways you are only 18 days into your cycle. You usually dont feel the test cyp until 4 weeks and the deca until 5 weeks.