decca/ sus250/ and a blue pill?

**ash123** · 02-11-2005, 04:39 AM

Hi, thanks for reading this thread

I am new using to steriods , i have used decce for 5 weeks and things seem to be going ok and im just getting gains in strength ( wish i had found this website before i started though). I was expecting to get another 5 weeks of decce but the lad who supplies me has given me sustanon 250 and 100 'loose packed' small blue heart shaped pills with 1 blue line going straight down 1 side. I think he these are d'bol.

the only side effects i found with decce was that my pecca wasnt as active as normal, i always have a huge sex drive and for some reason it did seem as high and the 'old boy' didnt want to play sometimes...to a stage where i was sometimes avoiding sex incase i couldnt perform( not good i know!!!) ...is this pyschological or physical effect???

getting back to the sustanon 250...would you advise taking it after 5 weeks (2ml per week) of decca.... it seams as though there are lots more adverse side affects of sus' can you try and tell me the good and bad things of it? whats all this other stuff some people say you should take with it and why?

sorry but im not very knowledgable with your termology on the subject too, but i am researching as best i can. I am reluctant to take this stuff till i know the in's and outs of both sus' and the pills.

i will try to get a photo of the pills and the sus later so perhap you can tell me if its real or not.

soz again for a long thread and asking what may seam basic questions to some you
thanks
ash

**Sharky72** · 02-11-2005, 04:53 AM

Hey Bro, I wont preach,my only advice is to leave the Deca alone and go with some test (Sus would be the last on my list). Deca causes Deca dick,which is what your dealing with now, the test may boost your sex drive again for you.. Also get some Trib and make sure you have a PCT (post cycle therapy ) planned and if not search this site for the pct forum, all you need to know is in there. Is this your first cycle?
BTW Please dont f*** with hormones till you've done plenty of research, you could f*** yourself up for life.......... Peace

**ash123** · 02-11-2005, 05:22 AM

yes this is 1st my dabble in it or 1st cycle yes

what is trib?

thanks for reply

**seanw** · 02-11-2005, 05:35 AM

First of all Trib is Tribulus, you can get it from the Health Food stores.

Second of all that cycle is fuked. And whoever told you test was worse than Deca is a fuking idiot. I have said this many times before, and I will say it again, you dont put sh!t into your body until you know EVERYTHING about what you are doing. Your sex drive is down because of the Deca, the Deca shuts off you natural Test production in an instant and if you arent doing some kind of Test with it you end up getting Deca dick. I think you are too far down the track to add Test now, because by the time that kicks in your cycle would normally be over. You could get some Test and run the cycle a while longer I guess. I wouldnt use Sust, try and get some Test E or Test C and do that for eight weeks, do 500mg / week and keep the Deca dose lower than the Test. End the Deca a week before your last Test shot. The other alternative is to cut your losses and end the cycle now and go straight to PCT (you do know about PCT I hope) and restart from scratch in a couple of months. I would choose the second option if I was you.

**Sharky72** · 02-11-2005, 05:42 AM

If your going hit test to finish your cycle then get some Test Propinate! But before you even do that, you should research it first!!! Almost everyone makes a mistake their first time, the key is to live and learn and be respectful of substances your injecting into yourself.. Know what I mean?? Be smart about it. Good luck and ask some more questions after you have researched.. Sharky

**ash123** · 02-11-2005, 06:05 AM

im gutted...thought id read up enough about deca and it said it was safe to use on its own in moderate doses...2ml a week...ill prob stop the course now.....may well have put me off all the gear for life...my pecker and sex life is more important than than getting huge, i dont wana get spoty or poor pecker performance,
the sites I read up on for research didnt even mention pct.....can i get pct supp's from health shops then??

anyone know what the the small blue heart shaped pils are
i havent had deca for over 8 days now..and havent had anything else either...any advice welcome...to be honest i feel a bit of a fool now...the scarey thing is the guys i work with take all this gear without checking anything out and with very little info at least(although a it late) im trying to find out now

thanks

**seanw** · 02-11-2005, 06:14 AM

OK stop the cycle, it sounds like you have already. Get your self some Nolvadex (Tamoxifan) and some Clomid ASAP. Then do this

Day 1 300mg Clomid
Day 2-11 100mg Clomid
Day 12-31 50mg Clomid

Day 1-31 20mg Nolvadex.

You can get it from here http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...1e943455b11226 and here http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...products_id=41
These are not products you can buy over the counter.

Get some Tribulus and Tongkat Ali from the Health Food store and do them as well. Get some Cialis as well, that will help you dick problems until you get your natural test back. Good luck.

**Diesel** · 02-11-2005, 06:50 AM

I agree with stopping the cycle. Take what you do have and put it away until you have done more research here. Right now you are throwing your money away.

BTW, If I am reading correctly, your running deca alone. This is what is causing what is called 'deca dick'. In the future, running test along side of it will help circumvent this situation.

D

**ash123** · 02-11-2005, 08:47 AM

if i stop taking now...look into and re-assess things...how before you would advise taking a new course and for a beginner what would you reccommendation be

I not a beginner to weight training or body building but I am a beginner to the 'gear' I am 37yr old, 5'10 1/2, and apx 228 pounds around 104kg

any advice welcome
thanks

**seanw** · 02-11-2005, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by ash123

if i stop taking now...look into and re-assess things...how before you would advise taking a new course and for a beginner what would you reccommendation be

I not a beginner to weight training or body building but I am a beginner to the 'gear' I am 37yr old, 5'10 1/2, and apx 228 pounds around 104kg

any advice welcome
thanks

You have only been on for five weeks, is that right ? If so I would do the PCT now and then start another cycle in about eight weeks. That should give you enough time for your test levels to come back after PCT. You might want to get a blood test done before you start again to make sure your Test is normal. Then I would do this

Wk 1-12 500mg / week Test Cyp or Test E

Then start PCT 18 days after your last shot of Test.

Thats all you need. Make sure you get at least 300g of protein a day and 3000+ calories a day as well.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 02-11-2005, 09:13 AM

Welcome to AR. Now, the best advice is stop now, do proper PCT (post cycle thearpy) and continue to learn and do research on this site. As everyone has stated, Deca alone is a bad idea. Sust is a bad idea for a newbie because it requires EOD shots ( shooting every other day).

Use the search button at the top of the page and research the following:

Test
Esters
Clomid
PCT
Nolva
Beginner cycles
Diet

**Diesel** · 02-11-2005, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by seanw

Then I would do this

Wk 1-12 500mg / week Test Cyp or Test E

Then start PCT 18 days after your last shot of Test.

Thats all you need. Make sure you get at least 300g of protein a day and 3000+ calories a day as well.

I don't disagree with what your saying. However, the figures are somewhat 'cookie cutter' one's. We don't know what his current stats are.

D