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    Human grade vs. QV brand test.

    Hey bros, couple of q's - I just aquired a 10ml bottle of Depot Testosterone , 200mg Cypionate . Human grade, directly perscribed (Pharmacia&Upjohn Co.) - I know it's legit. Here's a question, I was going to do my 2nd cycle, and already have qv enanthate 250mg, qv prop 100mg, and qv deca , 400mg.
    I was going to front load the
    prop-.5mg eod,
    test e, 250mg every monday and thurs,
    and 400mg deca every monday.
    Would you guys replace the test e with the cyp? I can get 2 more bottles. And if so, should I go with 200mg of cyp every mon and thurs, or just once a week. Is human grade better quality than QV?

    By the way, 34y/o, 5 11, 210lbs. Ist cycle last year was a sust/deca cycle.

    Thanks alot bros,
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    From my recent personel experience human grade is 10 times better than qv. It is dosed more accurately, the pain after injection seems to be much less, and I received no test flu like I did with qv products. Do not get me wrong qv is not a bad choice and I did make good gains when I was not too sick to go to the gym. If you have the choice go human grade. For me it made a world of diffrence. JMO

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    Also with cyp you can go with one injection a week. And the prop should be run every day to maintain proper blood levels.

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    When I use cyp and front load with prop it usually looks like this.

    Cyp-600mgs monday...weeks 1-12
    prop 75mg everyday(525mg week) weeks 1-4 and 12-16

    remember your front loading to compensate for the fact that the cyp wont become fully active until week 4. And droping the cyp at the end of 12 and continuing with prop to ensure a quicker start on PCT. The dosage of prop should be around what the cyp or enan is for the week.

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    there is no comparison with human grade and QV.....go with human grade

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    Quote Originally Posted by yikes!!
    there is no comparison with human grade and QV.....go with human grade
    exactly! Upjohn test cyp. is the best i have ever used.

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    Thanks bro's - human grade it is! Guess I'll just save the qv-e for round three. You guys think I should go with one day a week shots with the cyp? Guess I should do at least 400mg, because the deca is 400mg. Is 400mg of cyp once a week too much, or should I do 200mg a week?

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    Human grade all the way......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackaroo
    Hey bros, couple of q's - I just aquired a 10ml bottle of Depot Testosterone , 200mg Cypionate . Human grade, directly perscribed (Pharmacia&Upjohn Co.) - I know it's legit. Here's a question, I was going to do my 2nd cycle, and already have qv enanthate 250mg, qv prop 100mg, and qv deca , 400mg.
    I was going to front load the
    prop-.5mg eod,
    test e, 250mg every monday and thurs,
    and 400mg deca every monday.
    Would you guys replace the test e with the cyp? I can get 2 more bottles. And if so, should I go with 200mg of cyp every mon and thurs, or just once a week. Is human grade better quality than QV?

    By the way, 34y/o, 5 11, 210lbs. Ist cycle last year was a sust/deca cycle.

    Thanks alot bros,
    jackaroo
    I'm assuming you mean .5mL prop eod, correct? If so, I would go with ED injections.

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    QV is some underdosed **** HUMAN GRADE WILL GIVE U SOME RESULTS !!!

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    If I was you I would deffinitly go with human grade if you can afford them but
    if not just don't shot QV test enanthate in your quads this is a bitch swelling
    at there bro, just shot anyother place but never quads, JMO!
    And what Bigcut77 said about the test flu is true it happened to me about 4
    times in a row, I quit using QVs.

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    Agree with Seajakal about quads if you are doing test only shots. If you are mixing Test and EQ then quads are painless even with QV.

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    QV kills your thighs when done raw.

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    Yeah. .5 prop - I was gonna do eod, but I guess I can do ed for 4 weeks - do you think I can use anything smaller than 23 guage? 23g ed makes me cringe thinking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackaroo
    Yeah. .5 prop - I was gonna do eod, but I guess I can do ed for 4 weeks - do you think I can use anything smaller than 23 guage? 23g ed makes me cringe thinking about it.
    Yeh I use 25g, takes a bit longer but goes in smoother, less scar tissues, no big deal.

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    You will need more than 3 10ml bottles at 200mgs per ml for a cycle. I guess not thats 600mg a week for 10 weeks. Ok I would need more but you should be ok.

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    Well, I wish I could get another one, but I can't. I still have the qv test e though, so if and when I run out of the cyp, do you think it'll be a big deal to finish up with the qv? Oh, I was also told to go back to .5 prop injections ed for the final 3 weeks of the cycle - any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackaroo
    Well, I wish I could get another one, but I can't. I still have the qv test e though, so if and when I run out of the cyp, do you think it'll be a big deal to finish up with the qv? Oh, I was also told to go back to .5 prop injections ed for the final 3 weeks of the cycle - any thoughts?
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