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    eq or deca with new cycle?

    this is going to be my first cycle
    week 1-10 test ena
    week 1-10 letro 0.5mg ED
    week 7-12 winstrol 50 mg EOD
    week 12-15 clomid
    week 12-15 nolva 20 mg ED with clomid

    anyone think it would be a good idea to utilize some deca or eq???

    thank you

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    if this was my first i would just use test. But if you wan't to run another compound i would say EQ. What are you running your test at ?

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    eq has to b run at least 12 weeks to get optimal results but even better run 15+ weeks. so for ur 1st cycle i would just stick with test e and the winny, maybe add some dbol or prop in the 1st 4 weeks to kickstart as well.

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    thanks, im running my test e @ 500mg a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by smegs
    thanks, im running my test e @ 500mg a week

    ok i would run the eq at 400mg's per week if you where going to run another compund. But like tycin said you have to run eq at least 12 week's so that mean's you going to have to run the test a bit longer 13 week's.
    Hope this help's

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    test is fine but if you wanted to choose eq or deca i'd definatly pick deca...in my experiences eq hasn't given me anything but a little veins and no strength gains to brag about. DECA on the other hand blows up my muscles and makes me feel like the hulk

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleguns
    test is fine but if you wanted to choose eq or deca i'd definatly pick deca...in my experiences eq hasn't given me anything but a little veins and no strength gains to brag about. DECA on the other hand blows up my muscles and makes me feel like the hulk
    deca also bloats u like a mofo and shuts u down pretty hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tycin
    deca also bloats u like a mofo and shuts u down pretty hard.

    how bad does deca shut you down?

    i know the test production is goes to ****, but what else does it shut down???

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatRite
    how bad does deca shut you down?

    i know the test production is goes to ****, but what else does it shut down???
    it dpends on the person, it hits my libido pretty hard when i run it. ex:tougher to keep "it" hard. its hard to recover from deca as well. if u make sure ur test is higher dosed and run longer than deca u'll b fine but i still notice it.

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    Run the Test only for your first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel
    Run the Test only for your first cycle.

    why not deca or EQ??? i'm hoping that it'll add a few extra pounds in 10 weeks... but, if it shuts me down like hell, and i'm just gonna lose those extra pounds i gain from it, then i wont do it... i'm trying to figure all this sh*t out... everybody has different oppinions on what the first cycle should look like... how long, doses, when to run this and when to run that and when to inject...... i'm getting real confused here... one person will tell me sust works well, another test e... another to take EQ, another to take Deca... i'm trying to feel my way through this and get the best cycle i can... but frankly i'm just getting more confused than i thought i would...

    What should i do???

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatRite
    why not deca or EQ??? i'm hoping that it'll add a few extra pounds in 10 weeks... but, if it shuts me down like hell, and i'm just gonna lose those extra pounds i gain from it, then i wont do it... i'm trying to figure all this sh*t out... everybody has different oppinions on what the first cycle should look like... how long, doses, when to run this and when to run that and when to inject...... i'm getting real confused here... one person will tell me sust works well, another test e... another to take EQ, another to take Deca... i'm trying to feel my way through this and get the best cycle i can... but frankly i'm just getting more confused than i thought i would...

    What should i do???

    You will never get a clear answer on the following:
    Deca Vs. EQ
    Enanthate Vs Sust

    The reason why is that everyone has different experiences with them. Therefore, you will get conflicting 'opinions'.

    I said test only simply because there is no reason to go crazy on your first cycle.

    As the saying goes: "Keep it simple stupid."

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    I enjoyed results from EQ. Excellent vascularity and
    muscle fullness. One thing I did not fully explore is how
    long you should actually be off of EQ before PCT. EQ will
    tie you up for about 3 weeks vs. the 2 that people normally
    indicate. With that in mind, you need to stop EQ 3 weeks
    before the end of your cycle or the end of the esterfied test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel
    You will never get a clear answer on the following:
    Deca Vs. EQ
    Enanthate Vs Sust

    The reason why is that everyone has different experiences with them. Therefore, you will get conflicting 'opinions'.

    I said test only simply because there is no reason to go crazy on your first cycle.

    As the saying goes: "Keep it simple stupid."

    yea thats what i was thinking at first... just running test, but then i thought to myself... i've gone from 130 lbs to 190 lbs in about 3.5 years... so i dont know if i've maxed out on growth for now, and i feel like i need a lot to get me going at a good pace... to be honest.. i dont know what to think now though...

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    I'd keep it simple and run the test only. 500mg EW and you'll be happy with the gains.

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    aight thanks man

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