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Originally posted by thumper69
I do cardio every workout day, which is generally 5 days per week. Clen certainly enhances the workout session. Initially, cardio is catabolic, even with clen. Its the nature of the exercise. Cardio is defined as repetitive movements of large muscle mass groups over an extended period of time. The human body will fuel itself by using carbs, fat, and protein - in that order. If a sufficient supply cannot be metabolized by one method, it goes to the next. Long aerobic sessions eventually catabolize muscle for protein. In fact, I read a study (don't ask me to find it) that showed that the very muscles that were being abused, were the ones catabolized for the fuel. However, after the session, the body readily rebuilds the affected muscles, if the proper nutrients can be found. So, the secret to cardio and avoiding muscle loss is proper caloric intake to fuel the exercise. This includes a source of complex and simple carbs, and yes, even some fat. It has been my experience (not scientific proof) that the large muscle masses take priority in being replenished. For example, I run approximately 8 miles per day at a pace of 6.5 to 7 miles per hour. At that pace, I burn approximately 1250 calories per session. At the beginning of this routine, I was trying to lose weight and limited my diet to 2000 calories per day. I didn't build muscle, in fact, I lost a lot of muscle - I lost a lot of fat too. Later, I bumped the caloric intake up to 3500 calories per day, and added 150 grams more protein to my diet. The end result was phenominal! My calves grew from a scanty 13" to a well defined, beefy 19" and are extremely well defined. And, shin splints disappeared! My quads did not grow as much, but are rock hard. The more muscle I gained, the higher my BMR, and the more fat stores I lost naturally. I went from 50% bf (I was a fatty) to now less than 20% (I am also old and fat loss is much slower). I applied this same technique to my bodybuilding / aerobic combination and found with a little bit of diet tweaking, I am able to lose fat, gain muscle, and feel great.
So, in answer to your question, it is my opinion that it doesn't matter how much cardio (within reason) you do on or off clen, as long as there is sufficient fuel for the exercise. For me, clen just enhanced my cardio - my speed picked up slightly, which, of course, burns more calories. And remember, clen in and of itself helps the body burn more calories without exercise. Aerobics multiplies this affect.
I know that I will get flamed - preaching cardio to bodybuilders is akin to talking about cat ownership to a dog breeder. It isn't very poplular. But it has been a good combinatin for me.
VERY intelligent post. I've always believed in doing tons of cardio when cutting-generally 6 days a week. And I still do about four days a week the rest of the time. Most BBers will say not to, but like you said, if you have the proper diet, and keep it within reason you can retain your mass. You just have to listen to your body.