final decions on first cycle

Tell me if this is ok or not???

Weeks 1-10: Test E 500 mg (250 twice a week), Deca 300 mg (300 once a week), nolvadex 10 mg a day
---Week 10: 1000IU of HCG (500 IU twice a week)

Weeks 11-12: Test E 500 mg (250 twice a week), HCG 1000IU (500 IU twice a week), 10 mg nolva each day

Weeks 13-14: 10 mg nolva each day, 1000IU HCG (500 twice a week)

Week 15: 10 mg Nolva each day

Weeks 16-18:
-Day 1:300 mg clomid 10 mg nolva
-Days 2-11: 10 mg nolva 100 mg clomid
-Days 12-21: 10 mg nolva 50 mg clomid

I know that EQ will shut me down less, but i dont have time to take it for at least 12 weeks... so that is outa the question... i wanna go with deca... i know there are tons of reasons to use EQ, but i feel like i want a little bit of the water weight from deca to relieve the stress off of my joints a little from the extra weight...

Do you think that the HCG is needed, and if so when how do i inject? Is my HCG usage planned out correctly??? i read that you should stop one week before clomid, and that it relieves the body of some of the sides from deca... is this true??? can i put it in the same dart as the Deca and Test e???

Stats: see my previous post "is this a decent first cycle"

ou dont need the HCG, dont buy it.

Take the Deca two shots per week (i'd bump it to 400), move pct to two weeks after your last shot and lose the HCG.

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Originally Posted by bdtr

and lose the HCG.

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Reasoning being?

It's just not needed at a cycle of this lenght/dose, you're just screwing with one more compound you don't even need.

1-4 ... something to kickstart cycle (dbols or, even better, test prop)
1-11 test en 500mg split into 2
1-10 deca 3-400mg split into 2 (stop deca 1 wk before test en!)
1-13 nolva 10mg ed + .25mg ldex (or 25-50mg proviron)
pct start wk14 (nolva and clomid)

as u can see, the only thing id change is adding a drug to kickstart the cycle because you will be MAD (and complaining) waiting for test e to kick in!
add some prop @ 150mg eod for the first 4 wks... and youll be happy with this choice!

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Originally Posted by TRE

ou dont need the HCG, dont buy it.

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Havent seen you here in awhile... welcome back

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Originally Posted by bdtr

Take the Deca two shots per week (i'd bump it to 400), move pct to two weeks after your last shot and lose the HCG.

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thanks man... no HCG, thats what i figured... and i'll shorten the time in between clomid and my last test e shot to two weeks, and up my deca to 400 and split it up...

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Originally Posted by fabry

1-4 ... something to kickstart cycle (dbols or, even better, test prop)
1-11 test en 500mg split into 2
1-10 deca 3-400mg split into 2 (stop deca 1 wk before test en!)
1-13 nolva 10mg ed + .25mg ldex (or 25-50mg proviron)
pct start wk14 (nolva and clomid)

as u can see, the only thing id change is adding a drug to kickstart the cycle because you will be MAD (and complaining) waiting for test e to kick in!
add some prop @ 150mg eod for the first 4 wks... and youll be happy with this choice!

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i'm not taking any dbols, so i'll get some test prop... u really think i need 500 mg of test e as well as 450 to 600 mg of test prop (thats around 1100 mg of test a week for the first four weeks)??????????? isnt that too much????????

if you do kickstart with test prop (which is what i like to do) then just run 100mg EOD, so thats an extra 350mg a week and 850 total

is it necessary?

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Originally Posted by EatRite

is it necessary?

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nope, i think it more beneficial to run at the end of your cycle

ok... thanks man... you've been a huge help...