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    1st cycle anyone can help

    What steroid do you think i should use. I want to gain weight fast get strength and get ripped fast. Dont want to inject so basically what oral steroid is good? Any ideas plus i will be looking for research when you guys help me out.

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    Research now, then we'll help you out.

    If you would have read through here some before you asked this, you would see that an oral only cycle is not a good idea.

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    how old are you?

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    what's your diet like? what's your lifting experience?

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    gear isn't a substitute for training and diet... get that in shape first and worry about the juice later. if you can't handle sticking yourself, then you aren't ready...

    seriously, read through some of the educational forums and you will start to understand why you don't want to do an "all oral" cycle

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    Haha yeah bro bro, put in a lil research. Injectables may suck a bit more, but with what you want, you have pretty much no other choice...other than proper diet and exercise. Learn the ropes for a bit then jump into a cycle

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    Everything everyone else said plus nothing happens fast and nothing happens with orals (not much at least). Research and Return

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    I have just done Ph cycles such as m1t and 4derm and i was thinking it was about time to use some gear but im 5'9 185 body fat 9% been working out 4 years just wanted help on what steroids i should look up that would help me in all ways?

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    how old are you?

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    oops... got it

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    look up novice cycles... good place to start, but before you decide on anything get some feedback from some of the experienced guys on the site... i am in no way calling myself experienced, so hit up some of the mods to see what they think. just make sure that you research as much as you can before you post threads. that way you don't ask a question that someone else asked two days ago. these guys have really helped me out a lot

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    I almost feel guilty replying this?

    research.. Dibol, Deca , Eq and novice cycles

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    Quote Originally Posted by rager
    I almost feel guilty replying this?

    research.. Dibol, Deca, Eq and novice cycles
    No, research Testosterone E or C. Just curious, because I've seen you post it a couple 20 times...lol, what's Dibol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11
    No, research Testosterone E or C. Just curious, because I've seen you post it a couple 20 times...lol, what's Dibol?
    lol thats great.. now you get why we all stir up conversation on this sight.. trust me .. half of the questions posted? people now the answers lol

    Love that .. late

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    400-600 mg of testosterone enanthate or cyp for a period of 12 weeks alongside 10mg of nolva which can be increased with any signs of breast growth. Followed by standard PCT protocol which can be found in the PCT forum here on AR.

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    huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by rager
    lol thats great.. now you get why we all stir up conversation on this sight.. trust me .. half of the questions posted? people now the answers lol

    Love that .. late

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    huh?
    He's made a couple threads like that tonight, lol. I've read them all about 10 times each, and still don't know what the hell he's trying to say.
    Last edited by YounG_SluG11; 02-16-2005 at 02:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11
    He's made a couple threads like that tonight, lol. I've read them all about 10 times each, and still don't know what the hell he's trying to say.
    10 times? what do you do all day?

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    I'm honestly dumbfounded, I don't get it at all. Rager, can you try and write a little more coherently so we can better grasp what you're trying to say. Just take a little bit more time, it'll help us all help you better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    I'm honestly dumbfounded, I don't get it at all. Rager, can you try and write a little more coherently so we can better grasp what you're trying to say. Just take a little bit more time, it'll help us all help you better.
    dude.. I have been basically taking all this in for my senior thesis ( which IM bummin on at this point) ? The coherent the dispondent and the out right F.. up... Im trying to get something together at this point from someone that has dabbled in the Juice? ( but can learn a hell of alot more) Bare with me here my friend....

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    I'm still clueless bro. I'm sorry....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rager
    dude.. I have been basically taking all this in for my senior thesis ( which IM bummin on at this point) ? The coherent the dispondent and the out right F.. up... Im trying to get something together at this point from someone that has dabbled in the Juice? ( but can learn a hell of alot more) Bare with me here my friend....

    http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=47

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    This is hillarious.

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    That doesnt explain the other 78 posts... People need to really take the time (it'll only take a few seconds) to just read their posts out loud and see if they make sense. It would make so many questions/answers so much easier to understand.

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    He's drunk lol, well I guess that explains it.

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    Sorry to hijack your thread DoubleD1, lets get it back on topic now.

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    Thanks all.. will post this thesis in about three months? and thanks to those who bitched... Your sighted...

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    So you came here to write a thesis and aren't even a steroid user? What exactly is this for? You come here, give uneducated advice then we found out you're just writing a paper? Not cool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    So you came here to write a thesis and aren't even a steroid user? What exactly is this for? You come here, give uneducated advice then we found out you're just writing a paper? Not cool...
    dude, I have been doing roids since you have been picking peanuts out of your ****? watch what your saying here before your axed? Im here to participate on this sight. You seem to be all Nuts out.... its cool

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    pickin peanuts out of his what?

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    You got 4 years on me, I'm sorry I'm so young.. Then again, I have been juicing for 9 straight years and have spent countless hours researching them, finding what works and what doesnt through personal experiences and spending even more hours helping people on here with good solid advice. What do you mean before im axed?

    Quote Originally Posted by rager
    dude, I have been doing roids since you have been picking peanuts out of your ****? watch what your saying here before your axed? Im here to participate on this sight. You seem to be all Nuts out.... its cool

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    Dude , Im not here to argue? Im rollin the sh??? the same way you are? The one sec I think I know everything?( which I don't) Bam , I dont know shi? Im just saying that as a student and Gear head? as alot of us are? Im just trying to write a thesis that is coherent and has to do with some real facts for once? A work in progress... Stanford Drunk... lol ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rager
    dude, I have been doing roids since you have been picking peanuts out of your ****? watch what your saying here before your axed? Im here to participate on this sight. You seem to be all Nuts out.... its cool
    Its amazing what too much alcohol can do to one's common sense.

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    Dude , Im not here to argue? Im rollin the sh??? the same way you are? The one sec I think I know everything?( which I don't) Bam , I dont know shi? Im just saying that as a student and Gear head? as alot of us are? Im just trying to write a thesis that is coherent and has to do with some real facts for once? A work in progress... Stanford Drunk... lol ...

    I can't understand this thread. You need info? Maybe you'll understand this site...

    http://gizzogle.com/

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    I just got the google link there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rager
    I just got the google link there?
    http://sites.gizoogle.com/?url=http:...com/index.php?

    Try this one bro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown_SC
    LOL

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    Why do you use question marks as periods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11
    Why do you use question marks as periods?
    dude.. Masters or PHd? you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ
    LOL
    I have that one, but thank you for sending it over !!!!!!!

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