piecing together a cutter

**biglouie250** · 02-16-2005, 10:40 AM

3rd cycle mostly have done test cycles, with some winny in the last one and PCT.

Was thinking of:
Week 1-10: 200-250mgs test enanthate
Week 1-10: 10mgs of winny tabs ED
Week 2-4 and 6-10: Clen cycled in until i hit 100mcg ed then taper down (as per clen diary)

taking nolva, and 6-oxo during and nolva, 6-oxo and clomids after per normal PCT

Diet is on the money, will be doing cardio in the AM as opposed to night time preworkout(like i do now)

Questions? Comments?

***BajanBastard*** · 02-16-2005, 10:44 AM

Why are your dosages so low?

**Diesel** · 02-16-2005, 10:45 AM

I honestly don't like the looks of that cycle bro.

What about a Prop/Tren /Winny cycle?

Also, do a search under Hooker for his Clen thread.......No need to cycle it anymore.

**biglouie250** · 02-16-2005, 10:50 AM

well i know that test is needed with winny and i figured a low dose cycle should do the trick. not a real fan of tren or prop.

***BajanBastard*** · 02-16-2005, 10:52 AM

Well AAS burn fat. The more you use the greater the fat loss effect.

**Diesel** · 02-16-2005, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by biglouie250

well i know that test is needed with winny and i figured a low dose cycle should do the trick. not a real fan of tren or prop.

What about sust then?

**biglouie250** · 02-16-2005, 10:53 AM

ehh read too many no no's about sust on here

***xxx*** · 02-16-2005, 10:54 AM

[QUOTE=big k.l.g]Well AAS burn fat. [QUOTE]

since when

**biglouie250** · 02-16-2005, 11:00 AM

other thoughts? is there something "wrong" with my cycle or is it just a preference thing here?

***xxx*** · 02-16-2005, 11:03 AM

well clen is ****, 6oxo is useless and 10 mg of winstrol is doing nuttin.

stats?

***BajanBastard*** · 02-16-2005, 11:04 AM

[QUOTE=***xxx***]

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Well AAS burn fat. QUOTE]

since when

Since I fvcking said so!

Well here we go.

Steroids that bind to the androgen receptor can directly promote a dose dependant fat loss effect by binding to the A.R on fat cell, this causes the fat to break down. The binding to the A.R also stops the fat cells from forming new fat. (The better the binding the more fat loss.)

There's the nutrient portioning effect of AAS as well, more so the food you eat goes to muscle tissue on fat.

You got me?

**biglouie250** · 02-16-2005, 11:07 AM

clen is ****? many people on here swear by it. ahh i meant 20mgs of winny sorry.

***xxx*** · 02-16-2005, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Since I fvcking said so!

Well here we go.

Steroids that bind to the androgen receptor can directly promote a dose dependant fat loss effect by binding to the A.R on fat cell, this causes the fat to break down. The binding to the A.R also stops the fat cells from forming new fat. (The better the binding the more fat loss.)

There's the nutrient portioning effect of AAS as well, more so the food you eat goes to muscle tissue on fat.

You got me?

that what mean that everybody eating clean and cycling with high dosages would get ripped automatically! that is just not happening...

***xxx*** · 02-16-2005, 11:15 AM

whats your goal man? u wanna cut or bulk? and still - what r your stats?

**XxElitexX** · 02-16-2005, 11:35 AM

Why dont you like Prop/Tren ? I am all for low dose cycles, but I dont know if you would hinder much results from those dosages. JMO. And I would say that test E would be a no no if your cutting, do to the water retention. Test is test but I would stick to a short ester like prop. Also if you are running only 10 weeks I would especially use the short ester because Test E takes about 3-4 weeks to feel anytrhing from. This would be a low dose AWESOME cutter.

1-10 Prop 100mg EOD or 50mg ED
1-10 Tren 75mg EOD or 35mg ED
5-10 Winny 75mg EOD or 40mg ED
...And then run your clen as you already stated.

Just my .02. Great luck with your cycle!

**biglouie250** · 02-16-2005, 12:21 PM

sorry went to lunch. want to cut. 6' 200lbs, 13% bf with a caliper. 15% bf using my friends scale that tells you. so im in that range i guess.

i see your point with the test but thats why i would be taking nolva throughout to keep the bloating minimal it worked well last time and i was doing 500mgs of test/wk

**biglouie250** · 02-16-2005, 12:39 PM

bump

**biglouie250** · 02-16-2005, 01:20 PM

bumpo

***BajanBastard*** · 02-16-2005, 01:25 PM

Use letro drop the nolva.

**biglouie250** · 02-16-2005, 01:27 PM

whys that?

**Mutant** · 02-16-2005, 01:40 PM

I would say use the letro and Nolva togather, but there is nothing wrong with just plain Nolva except it doesnt stop water retention as well as letro. Also, i'd like to say that you should throw 6-OXO in the trash. That stuff is absolute crap and it doesnt work from experiance!