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    1st Cycle FINAL?

    I dropped the 15wk test/prop/etc cycle as agreed was too much for first cycle. This new cycle will work better with the finances too as I already have the m1t&4ad on hand. Would like to do var 1-5 too, but have to pay the the Home Owners Assoc. & upcomming prop. tax.

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    1-12 test e 250mg E3D = 500mg wk
    1-4 M1T 15mg ED & 4AD
    10-14 var 60mg ED

    PCT=300,100,50 Clomid/Novla 20mg

    Trying to get to second cycle test/tren /var, have a craving for tren-dont know why.

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    I see you've got Nolva at the end.. are you running it tru-out also?

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    Yes. 10mg throughout.

    Thanks for taking a look narkissos.
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    It looks like it should work pretty good. Personally I would save the nolva until it's needed. That is only if gyno shows up. You may find that you have no gyno trouble at 500mg/week of test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrower74
    It looks like it should work pretty good. Personally I would save the nolva until it's needed. That is only if gyno shows up. You may find that you have no gyno trouble at 500mg/week of test.

    Thanks bro, Ive gotten slight gyno before from the 4AD. So ill run whole cycle. But I know what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ire
    I dropped the 15wk test/prop/etc cycle as agreed was too much for first cycle. This new cycle will work better with the finances too as I already have the m1t&4ad on hand. Would like to do var 1-5 too, but have to pay the the Home Owners Assoc. & upcomming prop. tax.

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    5'11"
    195lbs
    11%
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    1-12 test e 250mg E3D = 500mg wk
    1-4 M1T 15mg ED & 4AD
    10-14 var 60mg ED

    PCT=300,100,50 Clomid/Novla 20mg

    Trying to get to second cycle test/tren/var, have a craving for tren-dont know why.

    4weeks of var?? dude atleast 6 weeks of it. waste of $ for 4 weeks

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    The Nolva tru-out (especially seing you're prone to gyno) is a good idea.


    you said 15mg M1T..but how many mg 4ad are you going to use?

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    yeah id go atleast 6 weeks of var, 8 being best. If you can afford it, just run 6 weeks of winny instead

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    Hung, my bad..actually was thinking 10 to the end of wk 14 so really 5 weeks. You're right though, I do hear 6 is min but thought I could shave a week off without loosing anything compared to the cost of another load of var.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    yeah id go atleast 6 weeks of var, 8 being best. If you can afford it, just run 6 weeks of winny instead

    How man mg ED of winny are we talking? 25mg x 100 Caps will save me 25.00 versus the var.

    Narkissos, the 4ad is oral @ 500-800 mg ED.

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    50mg ED for 6 weeks is standard

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    Thanks for the help fellas, how does it look? Winny saves me alot!

    1-12 test e 250mg E3D = 500mg wk
    1-4 M1T 15mg ED & 4AD (oral 500-800mg)
    8-14 winny 50mg ED
    1-14 nolva 10mg ED

    15-18 PCT=300,100,50 Clomid/Novla 20mg

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    looks good. I think you will be more happy with the results from 6 weeks of winny instead of only 5 weeks of var.

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    Save money and happier results, thanks bro. The only prob now is with all that money I saved with winny-I feel like throwing more in the kettle, hah. Im good, 1st cycle.
    Thanks again,

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