I already have plenty of muscle mass and a low bf but am looking for more definition and hardness
I was thinking about 30mg of tablets per day for 11wks
what do ya think
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I already have plenty of muscle mass and a low bf but am looking for more definition and hardness
I was thinking about 30mg of tablets per day for 11wks
what do ya think
your kidding right?
Might want to do a littel more research..... Wnny only... 11 wks...
nope
add prop at a very lose dose to be cautois and make the cycle prop 1-8 winny 6-10..at least..You want some nice leans gains then take low dosages of both,make hard work and diet get you where you want to go
bro you really should do a little research before you screw yourself, not to sound like a dick but come on winny only cycle is a real bad idea.
Why is it such a bad idea if you dont want any more muscle mass.
Bad for liver?, kidneys?, dick?
I want to take it over most of the summer while dieting , staying as ripped as possible
it is a low dose?
no..
winny with deca
NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT! you need to do more research.
Bro, I don't mean to be negative, but please tell me you're kidding? Winny an Deca is about the worst cycle one could take....It will completely shut down your HPTA....Winny and deca should never be run alone together.......Quote:
Originally Posted by jjay29
IMO, winny should not be taken alone either......
300 mg prop a week, just throw it in, that is low low low dose and for your first time u would see benefits
I have done deca @ 200 for 12 wks
winny@50eod and primo @ 200 for 10 wks
and I just finished a tren ace @105eod with winny@75 for 6 wks and my dick has always been harder and hornier than ever.
If HPTA is the problem, I dont have to worry, mine is stronger than ever
could someone please explain to me in detail why a low dose long winny cycle is so awful.
if my joints start to hurt I can add 100mg of deca a week?
you've gotta be kidding me...just please do research bro, I dont wanna be a dick but there are MANY threads on here about winny and deca only cycles....USE THE SEARCH
Wow... this one is still here.
Im on my first cycle takin 25mgs of Winstrol V every 8 hours ed oral injectable. I started at 250 about 30% body fat and im 6`3.Im on my 5th week out of 7 and my body fat is about 15% and my weight went from 250 to 233 in 4 weeks and now im 240. Im very happy with my results. I have high test levels as it is and thats why I did not use test at all. I have had NO side effect exept minor headaches and a barely sore elb0w, well worth it. My arms have swelled up like a mother ****er and are hard as rocks. My bench went thru the ****en roof. Im 33 years old and have never done any kind of cycle before. I have a bad temper naturally and the winni hasnt made it any worse. Because of my temper I decided not to do test because of the reserch Ive done on the subject. 11 weeks is too much for your liver and joints. I recomment taking lots of B12 and milk thistle. Dont expect alot of size because you do not retain water with winni. Do your reserch and enjoy your spring break, I will.
WoW...Lets see what the older brothers say about this, I love to hear stories of ppl who do things they say don't and they do well on it. I personally think ppl take too much stuff anyway. I had great first cycle results with winstrol/dbol, I was told non stop to never do it but it worked well for me....Diet and Cardio are the keys to success with any cycle
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinups
As long as you have a strict diet and training regimen, it is possible to do a dbol, deca, winny, etc. only cycle, and still keep most of your gains, and not have any problems on cycle. But everyone reacts differently to certain compounds, so you should just experiment and see what works for you. I myself always use test as a base, but for some reason a lot people are against it, mainly because they don't want to inject.
You shouldn't do a winny only cycle bro, unless you're willing to take the chance of not being able to get it up on cycle, having sore joints for the rest of your life, etc. Winny won't cut you up, your diet will.
Diet and hit those ****en weights. Ive worked out 6 days a week for my results. Ive also notice my recovery time has shortened with winni.
i think ill take a crack at it
my source tells me he stays on 50mg ed year round with no trouble
like i said my test levels are through the roof even on cycle
ive kept all my gains and have never run test
I dont need more muscle
nor do I need to lower BF im at about 8% right now
I just want to stay solid all summer
man people talk so much smack on here they think they know everything...my buddy ran winny/deca cycle with no test no anti e's and hes 100% perfectly fine i dont trust half of what some people say on here...thers only a certain few that actually know there s*hit...he also got f*uckin jacked and he used to be a little chubby...youll never know until you research and do it yourself man thats the best advice i can give you....i say you go for it what doesnt kill you makes you stronger
Really lol, your 'source' stays on winny year round? Think really hard about that one....Quote:
Originally Posted by shredzs
Ur source is trying to make money off you if he tells you that, Winny all yr around is insane....Quote:
Originally Posted by shredzs
Spoc-Alot of these guys on here know what they are talking about, I learned a ton of stuff on this board and learn more everyday. I agree most users tend to over do it and seem to think test is everything, but test is awsome I can tell you that. I started at mellow but then tried test, test gets you big and ripped and fast but its ok to start at low dosage..
What you are looking for is anavar. Take a 8-10 week cycle of anavar at 40-50 mg, do a little clen to burn fat and keep you hard, cycle the clen with eca 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. I mean everything u want to do points to anavar.Quote:
Originally Posted by shredzs
11 weeks of winstrol will destroy your cholesterol levels for starters!
Glock-19 Im still waiting to see before and after pics that you lost 15% body fat in four weeks. I still find it hard to believe
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Originally Posted by shredzs
so tell me, why is winny gonna make you stay solid all summer?? Have you done any research on winstrol?? You know it takes a good diet to stay solid, not the drugs. No gear and get on a good diet. But you wont listen to us, so do as you wish!
He meant 15 lbs I think
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Originally Posted by chinups
see his post
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/149349-need-vet-feedback-pls.html
he says he went from 35% to 15% in 4 weeks on winny only. I dont buy it
I knew he said that but I was giving him the benefit