Expert Advice......please!!!!

**Rabduce** · 02-17-2005, 04:11 PM

I'm 6ft 190. done a few cycles. been working out solid for 5 years. This is the cycle i'm considering and have gotten alot of differnet opinions.

Take 125mg of DPHARM propinate 3 times a week for 7 weeks
Take 75mg of Tren 3 times a week for 6 weeks
Take 35mg of BD D-bol 6 days a weeks for 4 weeks
Clomid week 8 & 9

I was told to stagger off the d-bol first then the tren and end on only the prop.

Is this a smart cycle??

**Rabduce** · 02-17-2005, 04:17 PM

anybody help me here??

**MBaraso** · 02-17-2005, 04:24 PM

Whats your overall goal? prop/tren is usually for a cutting cycle. Winny or var is a nice addition to it but I would go eod with the prop/tren.

**Rabduce** · 02-17-2005, 04:25 PM

overall to bulk up

**MBaraso** · 02-17-2005, 04:27 PM

Well enth or cyp is a much better choice IMO for bulking
Week 1-10 enth 500
weeek 2-10 tren 75ed
week 1-4 dbol 35mgs ed
clomid 2 weeks out
nolva on hand

You might wanna throw in an anti e such as ldex or letro.

**Rabduce** · 02-17-2005, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by MBaraso

Well enth or cyp is a much better choice IMO for bulking
Week 1-10 enth 500
weeek 2-10 tren 75ed
week 1-4 dbol 35mgs ed
clomid 2 weeks out
nolva on hand

You might wanna throw in an anti e such as ldex or letro.

Enanathate give you too much water weight and you retain more off prop...plus it's cheaper...AND...i was told not to end a cycle on tren b/c of it's crash phase??

**MBaraso** · 02-17-2005, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rabduce

Enanathate give you too much water weight and you retain more off prop...plus it's cheaper...AND...i was told not to end a cycle on tren b/c of it's crash phase??

yeah enth you'll hold more water but if you use a anti e you should be fine. I'm just trying to save u from eod injects but if you wanna use prop go ahead.
You can stop the tren one week before u end your test and you shouldn't crash too hard.
There's many ways of running this cycle I just gave u one way off the top of my head.

**Rabduce** · 02-17-2005, 04:35 PM

sweet appreciate it

**Rabduce** · 02-17-2005, 04:36 PM

does my cycle sound good and have great potential or am i missing something??

**Rickson** · 02-17-2005, 04:49 PM

Hi Rabduce,
I like Mbaraso's cycle better for bulking and I will tell you why. It is somewhat debatable whether you really hold more water on a long acting ester but like he said with an anti-e it will be well in control. You also shouldn't automatically assume some water weight is bad since it helps increase strength and protect joints. Because of the short acting tren acetate you can end it at the same time as the enanthate with no problem. I like the longer cycle that MB has to help maximize strength gains. I also think using tren and dbol ED will help keep blood levels more consistant and therefore reduce sides and hopefully increase gains.