Thread: Please help newbie start!
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02-16-2005, 11:58 PM #1New Member
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Please help newbie start!
Hello everyone this is my first post. I am a 23 year old male, 6'2 about 180lbs. I want to start taking the juice, but want to know what is the best start for great gains, but without having to inject. I just am not a fan of needles. So basically i am looking for a good gainer oral only. Thanks so much.
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02-17-2005, 12:02 AM #2
Cant ask for sources... edit that part out.
There is no such thing as a "Good Oral" only cycle.
Sounds like you can gain a lot more naturally without the use of AAS. Do you have an anti e and PCT planned? Why no test?
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02-17-2005, 12:07 AM #3New Member
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so there is really no oral only cycle then. I dont really have anything planned as of yet. I have been working out with only creatine. I just have read so much about roids for gains that i am interested. I just HATE needles. I was just looking for some good advice.
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02-17-2005, 12:08 AM #4Originally Posted by SurreyPornStar
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02-17-2005, 12:09 AM #5New Member
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See i just dont think i can inject myself! Just a bit of a phobia.
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02-17-2005, 12:10 AM #6Associate Member
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Creatines Sucks ASS and it's bad for you...I hated needles when i first started but after the first week you learn not to hate them anymore...and after the first cycle they don't bother you at all!!
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02-17-2005, 12:10 AM #7Originally Posted by SurreyPornStar
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02-17-2005, 12:12 AM #8Originally Posted by SurreyPornStar
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02-17-2005, 12:12 AM #9Associate Member
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The worst part is when it breaks the skin...just think of all the pussy you'll get by doing it...suck it up and take the prick...it's not bad at all...get a 23 Guage 1 inch and you'll be set
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02-17-2005, 12:13 AM #10New Member
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so its just in the ass right? I might be able to handle it. can you work out less with it or do have to do the same amount just higher weights?
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02-17-2005, 12:13 AM #11Originally Posted by Rabduce
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02-17-2005, 12:13 AM #12
Its like sex for a girl, Your scared at first but after your first time your just a whore for life.
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02-17-2005, 12:17 AM #13
Eat more.
Post up your diet and workout in the appropriate forums for critique... my suspicion is that there is a flaw in one or both of those, and you can still gain 20 pounds naturally fairly easy.
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02-17-2005, 12:17 AM #14Originally Posted by SurreyPornStar
YES you have to workout HARDER while on its not miracle drug!
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02-17-2005, 12:18 AM #15Originally Posted by AandF6969
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02-17-2005, 12:19 AM #16New Member
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i understand workout harder at that time but do you have to work out on a more regular basis is what i mean. I usually workout about 3 times a week, but do alot of heavy lifting on a daily basis because of my job in construction.
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02-17-2005, 12:20 AM #17
SPS I would just hang around awhile and read, read, and read you can learn a ton here if you just put in the time.
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02-17-2005, 12:20 AM #18New Member
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about the eating thing, i am eating alot. When i started my job in construction i was about 210 and am now 180 but have been eating the same.
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02-17-2005, 12:20 AM #19Anabolic Member
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THe bad news: You need to hold of and work on your diet and training routine. The good news: you just found the best place on the net with an abundance of material to study and learn. Stick around and read as much as you can.
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02-17-2005, 12:21 AM #20New Member
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i certainly will be doing that axe that is a very good point.
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02-17-2005, 12:23 AM #21New Member
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also another question everyone....i know i cant ask about sources this site certainly makes that clear, but in general are there safe sites on the net or is by person the only way to go.
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02-17-2005, 12:23 AM #22Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by SurreyPornStar
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02-17-2005, 12:23 AM #23Originally Posted by SurreyPornStar
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02-17-2005, 12:24 AM #24
the net is 99% scammers, if not all. I dont know of anyone who knows a legit .com
email is the best bet
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02-17-2005, 12:25 AM #25New Member
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now that i think would be harder to track down. That is what i thought about the net though.
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02-17-2005, 02:43 PM #26
If you can't gain muscle, either your diet or training is off.
Everyone has a certain calorie amount that is their maintenance level. If they go above it they gain weight, if they go below it they lose weight. This rule applies to hardgainers as well. It is also dependant on activity level, so when you started construction your body needed more calories to fuel the extra activity, and since you said you're eating the same, you lost weight. The kind of weight (muscle or fat) is dependant on the macronutreint breakdown of the foods you eat (Protein, fats, carbs.) You obviously are not eating over your maintenance level of calories if you cannot gain weight. Simple biology.
Eat more. Keep track of how many grams of protein/fat/carbs you eat at what times every day. If you don't know how many grams of each are in a certain kind of food, check out www.fitday.com they have a huge database of food types. Then you can calculate your total daily caloric intake.
1g protein = 4 calories
1g carbs = 4 calories
1g fat = 9 calories
Here is a good link that has a calculator for how many calories you should be eating every day.http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi41.htm
Go above that number by 500-1000 and you should start gaining.
Also post up your training regimen. Exercises, sets, reps, days, everything. Do you do squats and deadlifts? These 2 exercises are the best for total body growth and releasing the most natural GH and testosterone .
Last, but certainly not least, if your diet and training is lacking right now, steroids aren't going to $HIT for you except shrink your nuts. Anabolic steroids grow muscle by increasing protein synthesis so your body can make muscle tissue faster. If the protein (and other calories) aren't there to begin with, where is the muscle going to come from? You can't build a house without bricks.
Not enough protein to synthesize=no growth.Last edited by AandF6969; 02-17-2005 at 02:45 PM.
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02-17-2005, 04:11 PM #27
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02-17-2005, 06:53 PM #28Junior Member
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Originally Posted by The Shredder
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02-17-2005, 07:08 PM #29
If you cant poke yourself, your not ready.
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02-17-2005, 07:59 PM #30Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Consistency
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02-17-2005, 08:05 PM #31
train, eat, sleep... the only three things that matter throughout your day... if anything is a priority over these, you shouldn't waste your money on gear
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02-17-2005, 08:28 PM #32Originally Posted by The Shredder
LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
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