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    acctane kicking my ass!

    ok im posting this for advice and also as a word of caution for people thinking of using accutane. Three months ago i started accutane due to severe cyctic acne pos6t cycle. about 6 weeks in i began to get joint pain in my inner upper chest. this pain moved to my shoulder blades upper back lower back and at time became unbarable. The dermatolagist told me that this happens sometimes but as bad as im telling him although in studies in happens in small percentage of users. Its been 1 months since i stopped accutane and i have still not gone back to work, i have still not returned to the gym and am yet to go a day with out taking at least 6 doses of tylonol three. I no longer can sleep for more than 3 hours with out having to get up and take a hot shower because of the joint pain. Any advice as what may aliviate this pain is appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoi83
    ok im posting this for advice and also as a word of caution for people thinking of using accutane. Three months ago i started accutane due to severe cyctic acne pos6t cycle. about 6 weeks in i began to get joint pain in my inner upper chest. this pain moved to my shoulder blades upper back lower back and at time became unbarable. The dermatolagist told me that this happens sometimes but as bad as im telling him although in studies in happens in small percentage of users. Its been 1 months since i stopped accutane and i have still not gone back to work, i have still not returned to the gym and am yet to go a day with out taking at least 6 doses of tylonol three. I no longer can sleep for more than 3 hours with out having to get up and take a hot shower because of the joint pain. Any advice as what may aliviate this pain is appreciated.


    Wow bro.....are you sure that is from the accutane? Are you on anything else? I was on accutane a few years ago and I never experienced anything like that, just really dry & sensitive skin.

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    Ive never heard of any of these sides from accutane

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    Me neither bro, took it in high school and had none of those, just dry skin, burn easy, etc. In the words of Brian Fellows......"Thats Craaazy!!"

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    Man bro sorry to hear that. I took accutane a while back but never had those kinds of sides, just dry skin mostly. I must say though that it worked fukkin AWESOME! Not one blemish was on my back or shoulders and I MEAN NOT ONE!

    Only thing I would recommend is going to another doc and telling him your situtation and maybe he can prescribe you something for the joint pain or just get on some deca J/K

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetPumped
    Man bro sorry to hear that. I took accutane a while back but never had those kinds of sides, just dry skin mostly. I must say though that it worked fukkin AWESOME! Not one blemish was on my back or shoulders and I MEAN NOT ONE!

    Only thing I would recommend is going to another doc and telling him your situtation and maybe he can prescribe you something for the joint pain or just get on some deca J/K
    yeah iwas thinking about the deca but i cant work out and im worried the deca will cause more acne. i think im f***ed
    im going back to the doc tommorrow ill post what he says tomorow. Im really starting to worry that this may be a permanent side. its getting me really depressed.

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    oh yeah this was on only 40mg per day, and although i was only on accutane for 2 months have significantly less acne on my back although im left with tons of scars

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    Just go with 100-200mg of deca per week. I really doubt if you'd get any extra acne from that dosage. I get acne from test, dbols, but tried 400mg deca before by itself with winny and no problems with acne. Besides, I think the joint pain is more serious than the acne problem you have. Try taking lots of Fish oil and Flax seed oil, together with glucosamine sulfate and Chrondroitin sulfate, and MSM.....can't do any harm. Hope you get well.

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    even 50mg/deca a week can help alot. Acutane has been known to cause death in 1% of the people that have used it. It is hard on the liver and the joints, it pretty much dries you out.

    If you want something that really really works better than anything else, better than deca get some ADEQUAN! Take it with some joint supplements and I bet the next day after your first injection you will be feeling much better, I did!

    Unless you know a vet really well or have an old ass dog or horses, or have a friend with an old ass dog that wont mind you using his dog, then it is pretty hard to find the stuff. Maybe your hookup can get some for you. Or if you go to mexico I immagine you will find some at the vets, I know they race horses down there, or at least in monterey and saltillo they do.
    Stay away from stuff like clen , and cafeen, and anything that dehydrates you!

    Good luck buddy.

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    I took accutane and never got problems like that. What else are you putting in your body man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbitlifter
    I took accutane and never got problems like that. What else are you putting in your body man?

    Everyone reacts differntly,
    you should know that!

    However, if he did take something while on acutane it most definitly would make the situation worse.

    I took acutane and I barely peeled, it cleared me up really good, I have seen some people whose face is a s red as a cherry and some looks like their skind is drying up and flacking off right before your eyes....everyone is different

    Just because none of you have had these symptoms does not mean it has not happened before!

    GET SOME ADEQUAN DUDE ....or better yet see a another doctor and ask him whats up you might need to see like three or four to make sure at least two are consistent!
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    If you have used accutane but still not heard of this sides you didn't pay attention when the doc was talking to you, or you got it by your own.

    I used accutane 5-6 year ago and I think I got some joint pain. Actually I don't remember if it was that noticable or if I just used it as an excuse to avoid gym classes (because of acne). I think I felt weaker in my joints and I still do. I FEAL like I have to be carefull but I also feal more smooth when I get enough omega 3.

    I get pain in my right knee and in my lower back somethimes. Don't know if it's because I used accutane but who knows..

    Worming up is important!

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    when to the doc today. he told me that he has never scene neone yet this much pain from accutane. The doc said exactly what phwssj said, that everyone reacts differntly to drugs and i just happen to be one of the people in the very low percentages that is being effected this way. To answear ace ventura there are many sides to accutane that are not even listed in the accutane print out and although u except the risks when u take it no one can tell u for sure how ur gonna react once u start taking it.

    Whats the highest dose of deca that ill beable to take without shutting me down??

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    i know that flack seed oil and fish oil helps with my joint problems, but mine arent near as bad as yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleDave
    i know that flack seed oil and fish oil helps with my joint problems, but mine arent near as bad as yours
    im willing to try nething at this point. i have to get back at it, not just the gym my my regular life

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    deca is prescribed for osteoperosis and other illnesses at about 25-50 mg every two weeks, you should be ok with that kind of dosage. If I were you I would definitly try to get some adequan.
    That is the best thing out there and if there is anything wrong with your joints it will fix it. When you buy the adequan get about 5 vials. Each vial should be 5ml w/100mg/ml
    For a 200lb person take 120mg every four days! Also take glucosamine/condroitin/msm (joint boost) with it. Helps alot!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoi83
    To answear ace ventura there are many sides to accutane that are not even listed in the accutane print out and although u except the risks when u take it no one can tell u for sure how ur gonna react once u start taking it.
    Oh, in my contry you even get a document that you must read and sign. It's very strict here..

    What other sides can you get that's not listed?

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    heres something i found posted by one of the bros on this site.
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    Accutane Adverse Side Effects & Dangers

    Under Federal Law, the manufacturer of a drug is required to revise its label to include a warning as soon as there is reasonable evidence of an association of a serious hazard with a drug.

    Pursuant to FDA Rules and Regulation, the reporting of Adverse Side Effects is on a voluntary basis. In other words, the doctor, hospital, or other medical person or facility are not required by law to report an adverse side effect from a drug. The FDA reported that perhaps only one in one hundred side effects ever get reported. One could only imagine about how many serious Adverse Side Effects there are from taking Accutane, that have never been reported to anyone!


    Abnormal menses

    Abnormal wound healing (delayed healing or exuberant granulation tissue with crusting

    Acne fulminans

    Abdominal pain

    Aggression

    Agranulocytosis

    Allergic Reactions

    Allergic vasculitis often with purpura (bruises & red patches)

    Alopecia

    Alternations in blood sugar levels

    Anaphylactic reactions

    Anemia

    Arthralgia

    Arthritis

    Back pain (severe in some cases, especially in children)

    Birth defects

    Bleeding & inflammation of the gums

    Bone abnormalities

    Bone fracture

    Bronchospasms

    Bruising

    Calcification of coronary, pulmonary & mesenteric arteries

    Calcification of ligaments & tendons

    Cardiovascular injuries

    Cheilitis (dry lips)

    Colitis

    Color vision disorder

    Conjunctivitis

    Corneal Opacities

    Decrease in red blood cells

    Decrease in serum high-density lipoprotein (HDL) levels

    Decreased night vision (sometimes permanent)

    Decreased Skeletal - Bone mineral density

    Decreased white cell count

    Delayed healing of bone fractures

    Depression

    Dizziness

    Drowsiness

    Dry mouth

    Dry nose

    Dry skin

    Edema

    Elevated CPK levels

    Elevated platelet counts

    Elevated sedimentation

    Elevation of cholesterol

    Elevation of serum triglycerides

    Elevations of liver enzymes

    Elevations of serum cholesterol

    Emotional instability

    Epistaxis

    Eruptive xanthomas

    Esophageal irritation

    Esophageal ulceration

    Esophagitis

    Exacerbation of acne (acne made worse)

    Eyelid inflammation

    Fatal hemorrhagic pancreatitis

    Fatigue

    Fibrosis and inflammation of the myocardium

    Flushing

    Fragility of skin

    Gastrointestinal symptoms (nonspecific)

    Glomerulonephritis

    Hair abnormalities

    Headache

    Hearing impairments

    Hearing loss

    Heart palpitations

    Hepatitis

    Hepatotoxicity

    Hirsutism

    Hyperostosis

    Hyperpigmentation

    Hypertriglyceridemia

    Hyperuricemia

    Hypopigmentation

    Ileitis

    Increased alkaline phosphatase, SGOT, (AST), SGPT (ALT), GGTP OR LDH

    Increased risk of sunburn

    Infections (including disseminated herpes simplex)

    Inflammatory Bowel Disease

    Insomnia

    Impotence

    Keratitis

    Lethargy

    Limb injury with physical activity

    Lipids

    Lupus

    Lymphadenopathy

    Malaise

    Microscopic or gross hematuria

    Muscle strain with physical activity

    Nail dystrophy

    Nausea

    Nervousness

    Neutropenia

    Nonspecific urogenital findings

    Optic neuritis

    Osteopenia

    Osteoporosis

    Ovarian cysts

    Painful intercourse

    Pancreatitis

    Papilledema

    Paresthesias

    Paronychia

    Peeling of palms and soles

    Photoallergic - photosensitizing reactions

    Photophobia

    Premature epiphyseal closure

    Proteinuria

    Pruritus

    Pseudotumor Cerebri (benign intracranial hypertension)

    Psychiatric disorders

    Psychosis

    Pyogenic granuloma

    Rash (including facial erythema, seborrhea & eczema)

    Rectal bleeding

    Regional ileitis

    Respiratory infection

    Rhabdomyolysis

    Seizures

    Severe diarrhea

    Severe neutropenia

    Skeletal hyperostosis

    Skeletal hyperostosis

    Stroke

    Suicidal ideations

    Suicide

    Suicide attempts

    Sweating

    Syncope

    Systemic hypersensitivity

    Tachycardia

    Tendonitis

    Thrombocytopenia

    Tinnitus (ringing in the ears)

    Transient chest pain

    Urticaria

    Vascular thrombotic disease

    Vasculitis

    Violent behaviors

    Vision impairment

    Visual disturbances

    Voice alteration

    Vomiting

    Weakness

    Weight loss

    White cells in urine


    Look man if you feel good i suggest keeping it to yourself or at leasts spare adviceing people to take a drug, you apear to know nothing about it or the concequences wat if a bro came back on this board are you going to diagnose the problem they could come back with, with a list of sides like this i very much doubt it...... is 'feeling good' a basis for reccomending a very powerful drug with many sides. There are many other possible cures/remedies to attempt untill considering accutane

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    I have used accutane with great results and minimum sides for years now, on and off.

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    I used accutane... About 2 years ago... Worked REAL well for acne.. But it got me real sick a few times... Vomiting and such... I had to stop a few months short... but it STILL worked.. I almost NEVER get acne..

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    definitly helped me out too although i wish i wouldnt have had the problems i did so i could have finished up the treatment

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    bro i used accutane at 80 mg per day for 16 weeks, i see you are using 40but i just ignored the dermatologist advice and took 20 mg a day i got much less sides and the acne still disapeared thank fully i never get it anymore now

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    I remeber I had dry lips for a long time. If I forgot my vaseline when I was at school they would start to bleed. Had to use it all the time. My skin was very dry also and still is.

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