roid question

**jsimon** · 02-21-2005, 10:03 PM

is it ok to run creatine while juicing it...also to get those handle gripping traps...is shrugs the only way to do it? for 2 years ive been doing shurgs on a straight barbell and its making thme wider not higher and suggests?

**jsimon** · 02-21-2005, 10:12 PM

Also im having trouble getting my arms bigger

**sammerthehammer** · 02-21-2005, 10:12 PM

upright rows

**dirtdawg** · 02-21-2005, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by jsimon

Also im having trouble getting my arms bigger

i would hold off on aas until you learn more about diet and training

**DrugsrGood** · 02-21-2005, 10:18 PM

Yes, you can use creatine while on roids, but most wait until between cycles. Creatine causes water retention which is usually already increased while on. There arent too many options for back really.... Barbell shrugs, dumbell shrugs, upright rows, try your shrugs with the bar behind your back,try wider grip...