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    new and final cycle

    Wk 1-13 Test c 600mg
    Wk 2-10 Deca 300mg
    Wk 4-9 Clen
    Wk 14-19 winny 50 ed
    wk 14-17 Anavar 50mg ed
    wk 14-19 Clen

    Pre Cycle 30 days of Clomid at 100mgs a day

    Durring Cycle Letro, Tomax, B6 and B12

    Post Cyle (Starting after last minny shot) 30 days of Clomid at 100mgs a day, Letro, and tomax
    Hcg Starting at week 18

    Any input would be great i have been doing some research, but it isd hard to try to make such i am running everything correctly exspecially my PCT.

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    Looks good to me, why is this is your final cycle?

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    anavar and winny together, id say no!
    use anavar at the beginnin of that cycle and for at lease 6-8 wks, or save it for another cycle

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    I'd just use the winny right at the beginning from week 1-4. Keep the vars the same, or if I were you i'd do 40mg for longer instead, ie 12-17 assuming that is all the vars you've got. Definitely not use the winny and vars together. Using winny in the beginning will help kickstart gains....

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    This is not my final cycle, just my final draft. I thought running the anavar and winny together would be a good combination to cut at the end of the cylce and tight me up. And help keep the gains i made. I never knew to run winny at the beigning of a cycle doesn't that defeat the purpose of the winny used for cutting?

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    Bro - what are you stats, years training and cycle experience?

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    28 years old about 210 10 to 12%bf. And training hard for about 6 years height 6''2'. And i am trying really hard to keep a very clean diet but it is very hard i seem to be very hungary all the time and craving bad foods.

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    Why 30 days of clomid before your cycle? I have never heard of that.

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    How would you run the clomid i have 100 tabs at 25mgs a tablet? Any advise would be great.

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    I agree I see your thinking about the var and winny at the end! Pointless to do at the start!!! Make sure u throw some milk thistle in there to just incase!

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    at what dosages do you recommend milk thistle at the end with winny? i'm also doing a similar cycle and have milk thistle and i'm curious if i should throw them in there

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    i think you should be running test all the way through the cycle. I understand the reasoning with var and winny together...but I wouldnt recommend it. EQ all the way through would be a better IMO. Good luck w your cycle.

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    I run my milk thistle at 1200 mg during a normal cycle (d). This summer when I run my tren , test e and winny ill bump it up to around 2000mg just to be safe!!! Along with pure cranberry, at around 1000mg (D)!

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    re-arrange it:

    wk 1-6 Var 50mg ed
    Wk 1-13 Test c 600mg
    Wk 1-10 Deca 300mg
    Wk 10-15 winny 50 ed
    clen 2 weeks on 2 off etc...

    start pct 2 weeks after last test shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    re-arrange it:

    wk 1-6 Var 50mg ed
    Wk 1-13 Test c 600mg
    Wk 1-10 Deca 300mg
    Wk 10-15 winny 50 ed
    clen 2 weeks on 2 off etc...

    start pct 2 weeks after last test shot
    Just wondering would the var at the start defeat his purpose?

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    final cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by tycin
    final cycle
    I thought that was comical also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwrob
    Why 30 days of clomid before your cycle? I have never heard of that.
    thats how i run it

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    Question is this good for shredding + a little size?

    1 of the following e/od
    100 fina
    300 eq
    50 winny
    100 primo
    for 12 weeks
    followed by all the neccesary things to get me back to normal
    clomid hcg clen
    Last edited by saintjames; 02-23-2005 at 09:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintjames
    1 of the following e/od
    100 fina
    300 eq
    50 winny
    100 primo
    for 12 weeks
    followed by all the neccesary things to get me back to normal
    clomid hcg clen
    start your own thread, but the fina needs to be injected ED, thats too much EQ a week, the winny should only be run 6 weeks. You need test

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